Yet another sniper shooting...

Lux Luthor

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This time in Virginia. What does this make, eight? What kind of a$$hole goes around shooting people for no reason?

I wonder if this is a terrorist attack or just some nut.
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Hope someone gets this garbage soon.

Should terrorists have rights? I would be in favor of NO, no trial, no jury, no lawyer, nothing! Why waste taxpayer`s money defending some IT (not human) who is less than a bug?
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Well, now that my anger has subsided, he should get a trial, So he knows no one is above the law, he is NOT God, and confirm the pathetic a$$hole that he is, and then get... Does Virginia have Firing scuad for Capital punishment?
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Here's an interesting article that I think most of you will agree with...

Once again I must explain guns to stupid people ... Here's a little piece of it:

Now. Think really, really hard about this. Decide whether you believe that this psychopath, this mental mutant, would have had the following thought process if guns were illegal in this country: "I want to kill people. I really do. I think it's time for me to anonymously murder about six people who are just minding their own business on the street. Oh, darn! It's illegal for me to own a gun, so of course I do not have one. And if I can't use a gun, then I guess I won't kill anybody today. Damn. I really wanted to murder several complete strangers in broad daylight, and man I would have if only I had easy access to firearms. I know I could use a knife or a club or even my bare hands, but ewww. That's yucky. I won't kill anybody unless it can be with a firearm. Oh, well. I'll just find something else to do. Nobody will die by my hand today because it is illegal for me to own a gun."
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Originally posted by AlexGT:
Hope someone gets this garbage soon.

Should terrorists have rights? I would be in favor of NO, no trial, no jury, no lawyer, nothing! Why waste taxpayer`s money defending some IT (not human) who is less than a bug?
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Really pissed!
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">do you know what terrorist is ?
 

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Criminals don't care what the weapons laws are.

The 'sniper' as they are calling him, has to be trained rifleman, military and/or hunting. I would suspect that ALL of the victims so far, have only ONE thing in common: they are Americans.

The perpetrator is VERY methodical, and would seem to plan ahead of time. Don't be surprised if he has changed vehicle (I would expect it).

I also doubt he fits the legal definition of 'not guilty by reason of insanity', as that is very narrowly defined, and requires one to be incompetent (includes not knowing the difference between right and wrong).

In order to catch this hunter of humans, they will have to think from his point of view. This is where the FBI's Behavioural Sciences Unit comes in, and I am quite certain the Profilers are already hard at work on this.

Could he be an agent provocateur being used to destroy the Second Amendment?? Quite Possibly. We shall know by what happens in Congress and from the Whitehouse on this one. Could he be a Terrorist, foreign or domestic??? Also very possible.

He could simply be a 'ordinary' serial killer.

We won't know until he is caught ALIVE and talks about motivation.

What is CERTAIN at this point, is that he has at least some of a trained Sniper's skills, and those are extremely difficult to catch.
 

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Originally posted by vcal:
Ease up a little bit folks, all we have here is yet another David Berkowitz (remember 1977?)...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You're probably right, but there's an odd coincidence that doesn't seem to have been picked up by the media.

Why does this happen to be clustered around our nation's capital? See this map. On 9/11, they went after Washington, DC and NYC. The NYC target doesn't make sense here, since that was to kill as many people as possible in one stroke. This seems to be designed to strike prolonged fear in our nation's capital by picking people off one by one.

Just a possibility.
 

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Interesting possible point, Lux- -who says we don't have to pay a hefty price for living in a free society?
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Added: I could cheerfully strangle the person that programmed that story page. (Lux's link). It's goin up and down like a Mexican jumping bean!
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Nuts, just nuts...it helps to remember that we know nothing though! The police only tell the media so much...
 

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Lately they have been saying there's probably some stuff the police aren't telling...hope that's true and that they are closer than it seems. I too will be very interested to see what this guy was thinking. Foreign Terrorist? Serial Killer? Domestic extremist upset about some less-than-central policy issue, convinced that shooting people in broad daylight will make us all understand and rally behind him? I'm leaning a bit toward the latter.

I admit the definitions of insanity in court are limited, but I have to wonder how something like this is in any way sane.

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Serial killer, domestic malcontent -whatever....bottom line these people are all terrorists..Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, moron Bin Laden et. al.
Results are still the same -people dead for.... no....sane....reason.

It's tough for law enforcement because you have to try to think like a madman, in order to figure out how to catch the perpetrator(s).
 

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Originally posted by rrtanton:
Lately they have been saying there's probably some stuff the police aren't telling...hope that's true and that they are closer than it seems. ...snip...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Trust me, it's true - But both the police and the media have been asked not to talk about it - That is one reason that the police were so pissed when the stuff about the Tarrot card came out
 

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it's always amazing to me that folks consider people like this guy a terrorist piece of crap but they give you a medal if you go over to iraq and kill a thousand in the name of oil.

don't get me wrong, i definitely don't think what he is doing is anywhere close to right, but i do think that he believes in what he is doing. just as bush believes that invading iraq is the answer. and execution without a trial? common, are we in rowanda or something? at least give a semblance of descentcy for christ's sake.

this guy definatly has some military training and we probably have the US government to thank for that. even if it was in an afghani training camp which was a side effect of the CIA training osama.
 

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Originally posted by Charles Bradshaw:
Criminals don't care what the weapons laws are...

...The 'sniper' as they are calling him, has to be trained rifleman, military and/or hunting...

...What is CERTAIN at this point, is that he has at least some of a trained Sniper's skills, and those are extremely difficult to catch...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I totally agree with you on the first point, but the I would have to disagree with you on the rest.
The dirtbag doesn't neccesarily have any "special"
skills, in fact, he is an extremely poor shot. Consider the fact that two of the nine victims
so far, have survived their wounds. Also consider
that *at least* one was shot in the stomach; a LONG ways from the head! It would not be very
difficult to go out somewhere, and shoot some
unsuspecting person in the guts. Those people were
easy targets, lets not give this bag of sh** any more credit than he deserves. After all, he is probobly doing this out of some twisted want of
fame and attention. I hope they catch that guy,
and do unspeakable things to him!
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Well...Spree killers are very difficult to catch. There's been media rumors of a van sighting w/two individuals aboard, etc...Here's what I've gathered, mainly from various media sources and my personal mental ramblings.

The guy has NO formal training, but has probably read a great deal, seen the various "how-to" vids, etc. He probably has TRIED to become a Police Officer, maybe even a military sniper, but has failed on both. And he's working alone.

He kills for the thrill, but not from the actual shooting, but instead he's living out a fantasy, and the first kill did not quell his desire to relive that fantasy, and with each shooting, he thinks of himself as a higher power; a "god complex" has been mentioned. His weapon is part of the fantasy. He charishes it, and will not use another. .223 caliber shells have been recovered, along with bullet fragments, but nothing on what type of firearm he's using. Probably an AR type, which isn't necessarily a "sniper" long gun.

Dropping the Terot card was a juvenile act, and his attempt to make himself larger than the Police, whom he thinks as his enemy. I'm actually surprised he hasn't taken a shot, yet, at a Police/Law Enforcement Officer. The last shooting was brazen enough to do so, as a State Trooper was very close to the shooting victim, but something may have occured to sway him away.

His choosing of victims is completely random.

What will continue?
--He will do more.
--He will try to get closer and closer to the victim; the stalking is a major part of his ritual.
--He may shoot at a Law Enforcement Officer.

-He will not kill himself.
-He probably his in his late 20's and lives at home.
-He probably collects Police or Military memorabilia.
-He probably has Police Scanners in his home or van/car.
-He's a Police or Military groupie: I.E. uniforms, patches, equipment, news clippings, videos...
-He probably doesn't have a job per se, instead,
he probably does handyman or traveling type work.
-He has very few friends, no intimate contacts.
-Somebody will start putting the clues together; based off of contacts with the shooter, like a gun store employee, relative, witness, etc.
-He won't be caught in the act, but will be arrested, probably at his home.
-He may have already been contacted by the Police, and may have a special interest in his own press.

What do I base this on? Absolutely nothing, other then I read a lot of John Douglas' books...

In the late '70's in San Francisco, there was a string of apparant random shootings of white people, which was done by a group of black muslims; the Zebra Killings. They were apprehended after the group fell apart. The East Coast shootings are not race related, but he's working alone, and will be difficult to catch.

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Originally posted by papasan:
it's always amazing to me that folks consider people like this guy a terrorist piece of crap but they give you a medal if you go over to iraq and kill a thousand in the name of oil.

don't get me wrong, i definitely don't think what he is doing is anywhere close to right, but i do think that he believes in what he is doing. just as bush believes that invading iraq is the answer. and execution without a trial? common, are we in rowanda or something? at least give a semblance of descentcy for christ's sake.

this guy definatly has some military training and we probably have the US government to thank for that. even if it was in an afghani training camp which was a side effect of the CIA training osama.
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Ease up a little bit folks, all we have here is yet another David Berkowitz (remember 1977?) with a long gun instead of a Bulldog .44 Magnum. Just like that sad day in August 1966 in Austin Texas-16 dead, I think... I remember it like it was yesterday.
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Unfortunately, in a society of 280 million, there are ALWAYS gonna be a coupla whack job sociopaths running loose.

They'll probably catch whoever is doing this, but I guarantee you it'll happen again sometime in the future.-I'll put that in writing.
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I remember so many headlines about random stabbings, shootings (McDonalds Massacre), poisonings, Anthrax mailings, bombings, etc...it just boggles the mind and makes 'ya kinda numb......

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Originally posted by Lux Luthor:
This time in Virginia. What does this make, eight? What kind of a$$hole goes around shooting people for no reason?
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The same kind that boards a bus full of passengers and sets off a bomb. I agree with the firearms issue, unfortunately there are people who truly believe that making them inaccessible will prevent this from happening. My mother lives in
Japan where they have a complete gun ban. She tells me stories of nut cases who'll go into a store and start hacking and slashing with aknife, and there was an incident where someone drove their car into a subway entrance (and don't forget the sarin gas incident). Can't wait till they outlaw cars and knives so we will be safe again.
 

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On a completely different note, how the hell did the shooter guy get connected to the fallacy of an "oil war" with Iraq...Give it up, folks, stay on topic...

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