andromeda.73
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I know some of you more 'informed if it were possible to replace the lamp model with that of the PF40 model PF50 should replace other components? There are no contraindications?
Polarion PF40 with lamp of PF50 is possible?
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vee73
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Yes it is possible. The only difference is Ballast suits both physically and technically.
It is a different thing then what you get 50W ballast. Not for anything. Except for some PH / PF 50W lamp.
It is a different thing then what you get 50W ballast. Not for anything. Except for some PH / PF 50W lamp.
andromeda.73
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thanks a lot of explanations for it! :wave:
one2tim
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I thought they used the same light bulb but different ballasts?
This lamp says for whole p Series http://www.polarion-store.com/pd-px-series-lampreplacement.cfm
This lamp says for whole p Series http://www.polarion-store.com/pd-px-series-lampreplacement.cfm
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XeRay
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Yes, I am "99%" sure they use the same exact Osram (Sylvania) bulb, D1S modified (by Polarion) for all applications 40-50 watts.
andromeda.73
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thanks for the contribution, then the lamp used by polarion is manufactured by Osram? :naughty:
andromeda.73
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I do not understand one thing, use polarion PF/PH40 Osram D1S, but the power of 3200 lum is declared lum while the 4200 lum is installed on polarion. 
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I do not understand one thing, use polarion PF/PH40 Osram D1S, but the power of 3200 lum is declared lum while the 4200 lum is installed on polarion.
The more watts being sent to the bulb, the higher the lumen output. Same 35W bulb for all Polarion lights.
andromeda.73
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I understand, thank you the answer, then in the PF50 the lamp is the same? is the ballast to adjust the light flow?
andromeda.73
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Yes, and yes.
Thank you again! lovecpf
andromeda.73
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brochure Osram Lamps: http://www.osram.com/_global/pdf/Pr...ghting/Headlights/110-PP-W014TD-en_XENARC.pdf
XeRay
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Yes, a standard Osram (Sylvania) D1S 4200-4300K. They remove the metal shielding box over the igniter (easy) and modify the return wire They remove ceramic tube and move return wire closer and re-spot weld the connection at the tip.
Note: Osram changed the support structure of their bulb design about 1.5 years ago. The newer production bulbs have a 4 prong metal support style for the glass tube of the bulb, while the older ones (most of you likely have) the glass tube is held into the igniter box with some special High temp adhesive. The decided to mimic Philips and GE I believe for 3 reasons, cheaper (easier) manufactuting process and better heat management of the bulb glass temps. Less outgassing issues when the bulb glass is hot. Managing the heat better provides a better life of the pinches (glass seal) either side of the arc chamber (no leaks). This becomes a much bigger problem when driving at higher than 35 watts as well.
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andromeda.73
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Many thanks to you too! :twothumbs
andromeda.73
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Yes, and yes.
and you can have it as a replacement? :devil:
one2tim
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XeRay
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The -40 has a lower power ballast than the -50. The ballast controls power not the bulb in HID systems.
The bulb takes whatever it is "given" in terms of power.
The watt rating of the bulb only means how much energy that bulb is rated for to run dependably. It will be as bright as the amount of electricity the ballast is putting through it. The 35 watt bulb being run at at 50 watts will shorten its life, but nothing of relevance especially in a spot light application.
So to reiterate what has been said, the ballast determines how bright the bulb will be. The watt rating on the bulb is how much power that bulb can take dependably from the ballast. An hid bulb is nothing but 2 electrodes with a gap in a gas chamber(well basically, obviously it more complicated then that). The more power you run through it the more pressure there is in the chamber so a higher wattage bulb needs to have a larger chamber to manage that pressure, such as the dl-50 fatboy bulb. hope this helps a little
So to reiterate what has been said, the ballast determines how bright the bulb will be. The watt rating on the bulb is how much power that bulb can take dependably from the ballast. An hid bulb is nothing but 2 electrodes with a gap in a gas chamber(well basically, obviously it more complicated then that). The more power you run through it the more pressure there is in the chamber so a higher wattage bulb needs to have a larger chamber to manage that pressure, such as the dl-50 fatboy bulb. hope this helps a little
andromeda.73
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Yes, I understand the concept, thanks to all.
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