Seeking Flashlight Recommendation

layzzzee8

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Hey everyone, new to the forums here. I'm in the market for a flashlight and I have no idea where to begin. I don't want to spend a fortune. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!

1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
__X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____Less than $25.
__X__Less than $50.
____Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I'm flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

__X__I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
__X__Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
__X__Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don't care.
____I don't know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

____LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
_X___I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

____I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
_X___I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a "host" or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a "drop-in" emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

____I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today's most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
__?__I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
__X__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
__X__I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
__X__Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
_X___5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
__X__30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
__X__I don't care.
____I don't know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today's high end lights).
_X___I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
__X__I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
__X__I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don't care.
____I don't know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today's flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
_X___I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments
 

flashflood

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The Nitecore IFE2 meets all of your constraints except price ($110). There just aren't any good lights with selector rings under $100.

If you can live without the selector ring, I would suggest the Thrunite Neutron 1A ($60).
 

think2x

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Hey everyone, new to the forums here. I'm in the market for a flashlight and I have no idea where to begin. I don't want to spend a fortune. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!

1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?
__X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.

2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)
__X__Less than $50.

3) Format:
__X__I want a flashlight.

4) Flashlight-specific format/size:
__X__Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
__X__Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).

5) Emitter/Light source:
_X___I don't know.

6) Manufacturer:
_X___I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a "host" or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a "drop-in" emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.

7) What battery type do you want to use?
__?__I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)

8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).
__X__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
__X__I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).

9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.
__X__Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
_X___5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)

10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).
__X__30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)

11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.
__X__I don't care.

12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):
_X___I don't care.

13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.
__X__I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
__X__I want a selector ring.


14)Material/Finish/Coating
_X___I don't care.
Here is my suggestions that should fit everything you marked EXCEPT selector ring.
THIS and one of these. The price range made it harder and (I think) impossible for one with selector ring. I've read good things about the module.
 

Z-Tab

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Solarforce L2 with a Thrunite XM-L 3-mode drop-in. No selector ring, but it'll be under $50 shipped and you'll get a pretty bright and versatile light.


Edit: funny, think2x comes through with the exact same recommendation as me.
 

Thomasaurus

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Try a led lenser p7 awesome bang for your buck and fits in nicely with your choices :)
 

layzzzee8

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Thanks for the recommendations. If I go with the Thrunite XM-L drop in and the Solarforce L2 Host what batteries do I need and how many lumens would that produce? Is that the brightest I can get for the $50 price range? I am regularly in burnt out houses with no electricity for my job. I want to make sure I have as much light as possible for around $50.
 

think2x

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Thanks for the recommendations. If I go with the Thrunite XM-L drop in and the Solarforce L2 Host what batteries do I need and how many lumens would that produce? Is that the brightest I can get for the $50 price range? I am regularly in burnt out houses with no electricity for my job. I want to make sure I have as much light as possible for around $50.
On my first suggestion you can use 2xcr123 batteries or 1x18650 LiIon rechargeable. From what I've read you should get somewhere between 300-450 lumens.

Suggestion #2 For going in houses without electricity I would consider a Quark AA2. It was one of my first "real" lights that I carried at work, being an electrician I go in similar types of areas (though not burnt) and the Quark AA2 with regular UI is a great light for the money but very slightly over your $50 budget.

As far as the "brightest", after 200 lumens it gets harder to tell increases in output that's why I think the Quark or similar light would be more than adequate for your needs.
 
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layzzzee8

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On my first suggestion you can use 2xcr123 batteries or 1x18650 LiIon rechargeable. From what I've read you should get somewhere between 300-450 lumens.

Is it possible to extend the solarforce to add an extra 18650? What benefits will that provide?

at the max setting how long do you think a 18650 will last?
Suggestion #2 For going in houses without electricity I would consider a Quark AA2. It was one of my first "real" lights that I carried at work, being an electrician I go in similar types of areas (though not burnt) and the Quark AA2 with regular UI is a great light for the money but very slightly over your $50 budget.

For around the same $ the solarforce XM-L combo seems like the better torch over the Quark AA2. What would be the benefits of the AA2 over the Solarforce/XM-L combo?
 

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Is it possible to extend the solarforce to add an extra 18650? What benefits will that provide?
Yes you can buy an extension from the same vendor if you wish. Should extend runtime. I'm not sure what driver it uses.

at the max setting how long do you think a 18650 will last?
Anywhere from 1.5 hours (2200ma 18650) to almost 2 hours(2900ma 18650) would be my guess.


For around the same $ the solarforce XM-L combo seems like the better torch over the Quark AA2. What would be the benefits of the AA2 over the Solarforce/XM-L combo?
A moonlight mode (I use it daily), more modes in general. Quark is smaller. You can get it in 2xAA,1xAA,1x123 or 2x123. The Quark has a 10 year warranty when bought from authorized dealer. There is such a thing as TOO MUCH LIGHT sometimes and IMO Quark lights cover a great variety of situations from very low light to plenty of light for most tasks.
Both are very good setups that I would buy in that price range.
 

layzzzee8

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Thanks. I think I am going to go with the Solarforce/XM-L combo. It seems to be the most customizable as I can always drop in a different bulb or extend it to fit more batteries. Or order a replacement housing if this one breaks. I could be wrong but similar prebuilt combos like this seem to be in the $100-150 price range so it looks like it's a steal. Going to Pick up a pair of AW 2900mh 18650 and a Pila IBC Charger as well.
 

layzzzee8

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One last question, There seem to be 2 Thrunite XM-L drop ins available. One 3-9V and one 2.7-4.2V Which one do I need? Is one better than the other?
 

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The 3-9volt one is best on 2 lithium ions, the 2.4-4.2 takes up to 1, and is optimized for such. The aa^2 is longer than the L2, IIRC.
 

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The 3-9v can also be run on 2xCR123s, if you carry backup primaries. The 2.7-4.2v version will go :poof: if you try to run it on 6v (two CR123s).
 

layzzzee8

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Excellent recommendation on the Solarforce L2 with the Thrunite XM-L drop in. Showed up in the mail today. This thing is powerful!!!!! Thanks!!!
 
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