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    Default Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    Here I have created a google spreadsheet which compares the throw of all the portable (battery powered and handheld) throwers which I have found out about through the years. It doesn't matter if they are stock or modded or what light source they have. It also includes many different graphs for comparing them. Each light is linked in the first sheet. Generally the light should throw farther than the current best stock led thrower, the Thrunite TN-42 which does around 700kcd (excluding speciality/short-arc HIDs and incans).
    At the bottom the different tabs can be clicked on (one per graph) and there is a button to the left which opens a pop-up with a list of all the tabs.

    I will gladly add any additional lights you might know if you can provide a link to a description and a throw measurement.
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    Thank you for posting this comprehensive and valuable data. This is exactly what I have been looking for.
    Imalent R90TS. MS18. Acebeam two X65Vn, K75, X45vn70.2. Eagtac MX25L4CvnT XP-L. Fx TK75vnQ70. Nc TM06Svn 4 x XHP50.2. Meteor M43vn XP-L dd. P60vn Quad XP-L HD 2 cell host Cryos Cu head. Tnt TN36UTvn, TN42vn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richbuff View Post
    Thank you for posting this comprehensive and valuable data. This is exactly what I have been looking for.
    I just wanted to create my own short-arc beamshots and saw this thread.
    Will read now
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    I need to do some measurements to get into that list )

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    Yes, of course. The farther the distance you measure at, the better. It would be nice if you also determine the diameter of the large opening of the reflector of each light.
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    Thank you for posting! Appreciate all the work that went into that list

    I also see that I need to buy some batteries and a inverter for a certain beast

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolarLi View Post
    Thank you for posting! Appreciate all the work that went into that list

    I also see that I need to buy some batteries and a inverter for a certain beast
    Ohh, i love to see you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Driver View Post
    Here I have created a google spreadsheet which compares the throw of all the portable (battery powered and handheld) throwers which I have found out about through the years. It doesn't matter if they are stock or modded or what light source they have. It also includes many different graphs for comparing them. Each light is linked in the first sheet. Generally the light should throw farther than the current best stock led thrower, the Thrunite TN-42 which does around 700kcd.
    At the bottom the different tabs can be clicked on (one per graph) and there is a butto to the left which opens a pop-up with a list of all the tabs.

    I will gladly add any additional lights you might know if you can provide a link to a description and a throw measurement.
    Another thrower would be the Streamlight HID Litebox, 1 million candela, 2000m throw.

    http://www.streamlight.com/en/produc...tandard-system

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsteel View Post
    Another thrower would be the Streamlight HID Litebox, 1 million candela, 2000m throw.

    http://www.streamlight.com/en/produc...tandard-system
    Not even close to the Gen3 Maxabeam at between 12,000,000 and 13,000,000 CP The litebox, iirc, is just a 35 watt HID. Not much more than a single automotive headlight and not even remotely a thrower like any Short Arc light. Maxabeam is the Throw-King of handhelds, hands-down. But you won't get a new one for $1,500. You'll need to UP your budget to probably at least $2,000, probably more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BVH View Post
    Not even close to the Gen3 Maxabeam at between 12,000,000 and 13,000,000 CP The litebox, iirc, is just a 35 watt HID. Not much more than a single automotive headlight and not even remotely a thrower like any Short Arc light. Maxabeam is the Throw-King of handhelds, hands-down. But you won't get a new one for $1,500. You'll need to UP your budget to probably at least $2,000, probably more.
    yep, thats a maglite, compared to the maxabeam

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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    I have added it, thanks.
    One thing to note - it has a huge reflector (I estimate around 180mm diameter)!

    Well this is a comparison of multiple lights. It shouldn't include just the Maxabeam.
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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    I like this list. Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    I like this list. Thank you!
    It's been a long time Patriot, welcome back !!!

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    Yeah, almost thought I was "seeing things" when I saw his post.
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    Hi Patriot, glad you like it!

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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    Ok guess it's time to find me a good Lux meter.
    “What do you mean LEDs are more efficient then Incans?”, that’s just what they want you to think! It’s a Conspiracy, Man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    Ok guess it's time to find me a good Lux meter.
    Yes!

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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    I have added the TN42vn90

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    Thanks for the list. My TK61vn V4 is ~775Kcd/1700 Lumens.

    Justin tested the Prototype with those numbers below. The V4 has more lux than the prototype.

    Fenix Tk61vn V1.9 prototype
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    Throw - 741,000 lux

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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    I will soon get this:

    Eagletac M25C2vnT - 550Kcd Rifle Spotter

    Factory Link Click Here

    • DriverVN4 Option
    • Oslon Black LED
    • Excellent throw for the size
    • ANSI Lumen: 750
    • Intensity: 550Kcd
    • Throw: 1483m



    This can join also join the list IF multiple emitters qualify.




    And this!


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    I will add the TK61vn v4.
    You seem to mention this light in half of all your posts here...

    Concerning the other lights:
    Nope, as I mention in the first post, I only consider lights which are better than the best stock LED Thrower (TN42 - 700kcd) to be of interest. Otherwise the list would be overly long.

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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    ^^^

    OK,,,Thanks

    However, I did notice that you listed ~ 15 lights Before the TN42 that were from 100Kcd to 562Kcd? That is why I listed the others.

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    Well yes, I guess the list is a bit subjective in this regard.
    The maglite is there because everybody knows it. The Olight SR-90 was the first stock LED thrower to hit 100kcd. Then there are some well known and some specialty (very throwy) HID lights. Also there are some incan lights which are rather throwy (but they will always "suck" because of the physically limited luminance of incandescent bulbs).

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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Driver View Post
    I will add the TK61vn v4.
    You seem to mention this light in half of all your posts here...

    I learned something. People from GERMANY can exaggerate!

    My Girlfriends Mother was born in Kindenheim,Germany. SW of Frankfurt and 12KM due west of Manheim.


    TK61vn V4



    Taken last night TOWER IS 902 yards away.

    I tested this light at almost twice[1634m/1787yds.] that distance and it shed usable light on a cell tower.





    Thanks again for the thread! The TK61vn V4 can now rest!!!
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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    I have now started adding otf lumen values (when I can't find measured values I calculate them myself based on multiple factors) and am calculating the luminance of the light source in each light based on multiple factors.

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    Default Re: Portable thrower comparison with lots of graphs

    Have you considered adding the MAXTOCH Xsword L2K to the list?
    While featuring a somewhat unwieldy name, the claimed throw is immense.
    It would be nice to have an early representative of the potentially disruptive LEP technology on the list.
    happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmut.G View Post
    Have you considered adding the MAXTOCH Xsword L2K to the list?
    While featuring a somewhat unwieldy name, the claimed throw is immense.
    It would be nice to have an early representative of the potentially disruptive LEP technology on the list.
    I have added it.

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