HDS Systems EDC # 16

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This is what I was thinking as well.

Twisty has no signal wire. It does have 2 wires in the head, 1 on each side of the positive terminal. The battery tube contacts each at different depths, leading to the ability to change levels/etc.

My personal experience is that the wires lose springiness and then your difference between levels is a very small fraction of a turn.

The light could actually be programmed when the wires are in good shape.
 

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My personal experience is that the wires lose springiness and then your difference between levels is a very small fraction of a turn.

I think the wires have been improved on V2 (but I might be wrong though...). I never had any problem with my V2 but had some on my V1.
 

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The new product line is up on the HDS website. The new Tactical UI is interesting but I think I will stick with the regular Clicky UI for now until the new rotary clip comes out and hear some reviews. Nice bump in output though.
 

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The HDS site is now updated. Just ordered a new 250EDC with the new tactical interface!
 

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Wonder if Henry is going to continue offering the 219B emitter for the neutral E1SN170 model? Output is the same as what IlluminationSupply lists.
 

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So the red 123 batteries have higher lumen than black.? Do they run longer than the black if used on the same levels? I'd like to extend my runtime and I've only used the black batteries.
Other lights I use run on red 18350s and seem to last at least twice as long as my Rotary.
 

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The red will give you longer run time at the higher output. The black will give you higher run time at lower output. It depends how you use your light. If you are going to run your light on high settings, the red battery is better to use. Lumen output does not change with either battery.
 

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The new product line is up on the HDS website. The new Tactical UI is interesting but I think I will stick with the regular Clicky UI for now until the new rotary clip comes out and hear some reviews. Nice bump in output though.
The tactical interface is quite nice. I've been using it for a few months now.
 

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So the red 123 batteries have higher lumen than black.? Do they run longer than the black if used on the same levels? I'd like to extend my runtime and I've only used the black batteries.
Other lights I use run on red 18350s and seem to last at least twice as long as my Rotary.

I think the HDS lights are fully current controlled so there would be no difference in brightness. I think what Henry said is that if you were running your light more in higher modes the red cells would give better battery life and if you were running your light more in lower modes the black cells would tend to give better battery life. That makes sense given what each cell type is optimized for and the fact that HDS lights have fairly modest maximum current drain.
 

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Thanks for the response Dan! Looking forward to trying one out down the line in a Rotary, as well as a tactical interface version.
 

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Just saw the updated website. Why is it that the light's medium setting is now a lower output level with a shorter runtime? All these runtimes, ANSI/Tactical, I liked the old method better, just how long it runs on a selected level before dropping on a primary, simple. I also preferred when the emphasis on these lights was efficiency and not tactical, IMO they're better suited for outdoors and sporting as opposed to LE. Maybe instead of a Tactical line we can see the reintroduction of some XR lights for the non tactical users in the future.
 

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Looks like Henry dropped the HCRI (xp-g) model from his website in favor of the neutral one (219b)? I guess the warm emitter wasn't a big hit. I should have picked one up - I have a soft spot for the 3300k xp-g's.

Can anyone who has one comment on how warm the temperature was? Are we talking rosy'ish or flat-out orange?
 

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Looks like Henry dropped the HCRI (xp-g) model from his website in favor of the neutral one (219b)? I guess the warm emitter wasn't a big hit. I should have picked one up - I have a soft spot for the 3300k xp-g's.

Can anyone who has one comment on how warm the temperature was? Are we talking rosy'ish or flat-out orange?
It should be about 3700K.
 

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Looks like Henry dropped the HCRI (xp-g) model from his website in favor of the neutral one (219b)? I guess the warm emitter wasn't a big hit. I should have picked one up - I have a soft spot for the 3300k xp-g's.

Can anyone who has one comment on how warm the temperature was? Are we talking rosy'ish or flat-out orange?



Just a comparison shot, left 219A and right XPG HI CRI
 

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Just saw the updated website. Why is it that the light's medium setting is now a lower output level with a shorter runtime? All these runtimes, ANSI/Tactical, I liked the old method better, just how long it runs on a selected level before dropping on a primary, simple. I also preferred when the emphasis on these lights was efficiency and not tactical, IMO they're better suited for outdoors and sporting as opposed to LE. Maybe instead of a Tactical line we can see the reintroduction of some XR lights for the non tactical users in the future.
All the runtime tests have not been done yet. Only the higher output levels. Didn't have time before heading to shot show. Once they are done, you should find they increase.
 

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Looks like Henry dropped the HCRI (xp-g) model from his website in favor of the neutral one (219b)? I guess the warm emitter wasn't a big hit. I should have picked one up - I have a soft spot for the 3300k xp-g's.

Can anyone who has one comment on how warm the temperature was? Are we talking rosy'ish or flat-out orange?
Ran out of the xpg's and can't get them anymore. Hard to build the lights without the led.
 
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