Hi guys, I just got a response from EB after I requested an electronic or physical catalog, and they politely referred me to their website. I apologize for my lack of "avocados", but I no longer think I will try and vindicate their lights. Thanks to hazna's earlier post, I found their M4 Scirrako on b&hphoto's website. B&hphotos' posted runtimes are 4 hours high and 7 on low with the INCLUDED cr123 cells, whereas EB's site claims 7 high, 12 low. Based purely on my logic and conjecture, EB is not including fine print on their website. I'm thinking that the longer runtimes may be on two 18650's, yet still managing to achieve the higher output because of the >6volt voltage. Also, the shipping is at least 3$ less on BHphoto's website. The photo on BH matches EB in the sense that the light visually appears to be HA-III anodized, and appears much tougher than my UF c8. Granted that EB is indirectly selling them on U.S. soil, I will give them a benefit of the doubt as to the quality of their lights, but I am no longer willing to collect and shell out money for a product that has so many incongruities with their claims and specifications ALONE. As an afterthought, I do not doubt their claims that 99.99% of armed forces approve or prefer this light, because they never stated how many people they interviewed (Having worked for a market research company for some time, I assure you that there are "screenings" and "qualifiers" which weed out interviewees who are may be favorable to advance the company's image. For example, the very first qualifier may be "does this light look like something you would use in the field, yes = continue no = terminate, etc. Questions are leading towards favorable answers while seeming unbiased. Anyways...). While their lights may definitely be of higher caliber than the *****fire "knockoffs", their advertising and claims are definitely lacking in specificity. Ultimately, since I gather that the main purpose of this thread is to either validate or debunk EB's outrageous claims and NOT to beat on their quality, I speculate that their advertising lacks the specifics to qualify their light for proper and honest consideration. In other words, what you see is what you get ONLY if you do it a certain way, and we are not here to tell you how to do it unless you buy it first. Sadly, I am extremely disappointed (yet not surprised) that EB did not even bother to include fine print about their claims. False advertising it is.