I am glad that this thread is getting some attention.
This does seem to be the general purpose of your posts here on CPF.
I do understand that many of posters are lobbing (some of them are working) for various battery suppliers/sellers.
This seems a bit presumptuous, to me. Having been here a bit longer than yourself, I can say with reasonable certainty, that no poster in this thread is affiliated with, or working for any of the vendors or manufacturers mentioned in this thread, save maybe one, and that would be yourself. While you may, or may not be affiliated with Orbtronic, I have no idea, it is a bit odd that you appear out of nowhere sounding like a sales representative, along with the associated "pie in the sky" hype that goes along with such positions. Also, I see nothing wrong with members "lobbying" for superior products. This may disappoint some manufacturers and vendors, but this is a flashlight forum.
Posting a link that is 2 or 3 years old, or link to charger (wrong + more than 2 years old product review) that has nothing to do with chargers sold by Orbtronic is extremely deceptive.
There are other threads pertaining to Soshine chargers as well as Li-Ion cells, and the general consensus is, as I said before, these products are "fair", if not a bit overpriced. Some of the other product associations, such as the Orbtronics-UltraFire alliance, I find a bit more alarming.
Again, not having ANY experience with the charger/batteries that are in the title of this thread, and talking bad about them is nonsense.
This is true to some extent, however many here on the forum are familiar with similar products from these distributors and vendors and have formed a general opinion about their product lines. And no, I do not think the general membership considers these opinions to be "nonsense", sorry.
AW batteries are good, but at whooping 35 USD for pair (2900mAh) that delivers about 2600mAh (that graph some people wouldn't like average customer to see).
I think your numbers may be bit off here, but you previously responded with......
Honest customers will decide based on many factors including PRICE / PERFORMANCE ratio.
.....I'll go along with that. I'm not sure what you are trying to insinuate by stating "
Honest customers", however. Also, in many cases AW's cells have been proven to outlast many competitors cells. This, in many cases, offsets the initial cost so that his cells end up actually being cheaper, in the long run.
Charger in that more than 2 years old review has nothing to do with this product/thread (completely different model).
Yes, but "Soshine" is clearly printed on the charger. Again, from member's past experiences with the Soshine line, many are not going to expect any miracles. I, as much as anyone else, would like to see more than one, or two chargers available out of the dozens presently being marketed, that actually are capable of properly charging Li-Ion cells.
Problem is more of ethical nature. IMO nobody can talk bad of this product without having ANY experience with that same product.
You make a good point here, but once more, the past history of these products speaks for itself. And as far as ethics go, why did Soshine supply improper chargers for so many years? Mind you, so did most of the other distributors (almost all still do).
I think if they actually have come up with a proper charger line, that's great. And, as HKJ pointed out,
One way to "prove" how a charger works, is to send one to a technical reviewer.
If several samples of these chargers were sent to reviewers with the necessary equipment to verify, if indeed, these chargers actually follow the recommended charging algorithm, then and only then, will we have a definitive answer.
Dave
