Test/Review of Sony US18650VTC6 3000mAh (Green)

[IlluminationDomination]

I heard about 1 year ago that Sony was going to discontinue making batteries and was selling their battery division.

Is that still true,if so does anyone know when that will take place?
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[HKJ]

I heard about 1 year ago that Sony was going to discontinue making batteries and was selling their battery division.

Is that still true,if so does anyone know when that will take place?
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thanks

I do not know anything, but it might have taken place with a contract saying the new owner can use the Sony name for a few years (I do know about that type of contract).

 

[howfe]

I found this video, grade B batteries do not appear to be as bad as I thought! (YouTube) - Battery Talk With Mooch | Sony VTC5A VS VTC6 | What You Need To Know About Batteries It is a vape enthusiast inspired discussion, but similar principles. I just ordered a couple VTC6's from Illumn, and really like the OPs review of these VTC6's!

Some things are confusing me on amperage draw with flashlights..

Supposedly, regulated Flashlights don't generally pull as many amps. I found the Armytek Viking Pro v3 XP-L maximum operating voltage is 13V on the Armytek Flashlights Comparison site. I know Armytek thermally regulates there devices to 60C generally, but not sure about amps? Is it temperature dependent? The battery over-discharge protection circuit only monitors current draw to a specified voltage?


In this YouTube video with a single cell 18650GA (15A) vs Samsung30Q (15A-20A) the brightness and runtime were better with the 30Q on a single cell XHP35 HI XHP35 HI? If a Cree XHP35Hi pulls 5-6amps why would there be a difference in an 18650GA vs a 30Q (Both 10Amp or higher rating). Still trying to figure out the maximum amps the various Cree emitters can pull with a single cell? The Cree XP-L emitter seems to pull 3-4amps max? Depends on regulation? The Buck Boost keep it in the LED's specification, but I am having some difficulty understanding, trying to pull it all together..

 

[howfe]

Just FYI : The VTC6's I just received from Illumn were manufactured January 31ST,2017 according to the information Capolini provided. They arrived at 3.49 and 3.50 volts.

MY LAST FIVE NUMBERS/DIGITS FOR MINE READ: ZA31Q

Z=[LETTER Y] =2017
M=A=January[1ST LETTER/1ST MONTH]
D=3
D=1
Q=ELECTRODE HISTORY

 

[IlluminationDomination]

Just FYI : The VTC6's I just received from Illumn were manufactured January 31ST,2017 according to the information Capolini provided. They arrived at 3.49 and 3.50 volts.

MY LAST FIVE NUMBERS/DIGITS FOR MINE READ: ZA31Q

Z=[LETTER Y] =2017
M=A=January[1ST LETTER/1ST MONTH]
D=3
D=1
Q=ELECTRODE HISTORY

Illumns is a great place. I have bought from them many times.

Liionwholesale only sells batteries and chargers.Primarily because they are wholesale and sell volumes, their batteries are between 3 months and 6 months old when I get them.

https://liionwholesale.com/collections/batteries/Sony

 

[howfe]

Oh, wow, looks like it might be my new favorite distributor! They are also based out of PA, and I live in Northern VA area so pretty close by, thanks!!

 

[howfe]

I heard about 1 year ago that Sony was going to discontinue making batteries and was selling their battery division.

Is that still true,if so does anyone know when that will take place?
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Thanks

I do not know anything, but it might have taken place with a contract saying the new owner can use the Sony name for a few years (I do know about that type of contract).

It looks like it will be/is Murata Manufacturing Co.? Japanese Times News Article

Murata Manufacturing Co., Ltd. is a Japanese manufacturer of electronic components, based in Nagaokakyo, Kyoto. Honorary Chairman Akira Murata started Murata Manufacturing as a personal venture in October, 1944. Wikipedia

Murata Batteries

 

[howfe]

Sony VTC6A has been tested:

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/t...s-vtc5a-estimated-2900-3000mah-20-25a.849291/

The VTC6A's do look interesting..

 

[iamlucky13]

The VTC6A's do look interesting..

It's tempting to rebuild my drill battery with those when they become easily available. and doubling their capacity. It seems like Ryobi hasn't bothered to update their cell source since they first released lithium-ion packs. From what I've found online, it seems they're 15A, 1500 mAh cells.

Some things are confusing me on amperage draw with flashlights..

Supposedly, regulated Flashlights don't generally pull as many amps. I found the Armytek Viking Pro v3 XP-L maximum operating voltage is 13V on the Armytek Flashlights Comparison site. I know Armytek thermally regulates there devices to 60C generally, but not sure about amps? Is it temperature dependent? The battery over-discharge protection circuit only monitors current draw to a specified voltage?


In this YouTube video with a single cell 18650GA (15A) vs Samsung30Q (15A-20A) the brightness and runtime were better with the 30Q on a single cell XHP35 HI XHP35 HI? If a Cree XHP35Hi pulls 5-6amps why would there be a difference in an 18650GA vs a 30Q (Both 10Amp or higher rating). Still trying to figure out the maximum amps the various Cree emitters can pull with a single cell? The Cree XP-L emitter seems to pull 3-4amps max? Depends on regulation? The Buck Boost keep it in the LED's specification, but I am having some difficulty understanding, trying to pull it all together..

I didn't watch the video, did he measure amperage? Some of the more powerful lights actually exceed the rated amperage of the LED's they use. The Emisar D4 (4 x XP-L emitters in parallel) has been measured peaking as high as 20A tailcap current from a single cell.

Even if it's really only 5A, the 18650GA sees more voltage drop under load than the 30Q, meaning less power at the same current. If the driver doesn't boost above the working voltage and regulate down, it will also mean lower actual current when driven hard like that.

 

[vestureofblood]

HKJ what is the highest current 18650 available that you know of? Anything that beats this under a 20-30 amp load? 40 amp capable?

 

[HKJ]

HKJ what is the highest current 18650 available that you know of? Anything that beats this under a 20-30 amp load? 40 amp capable?

VTC6 is not that good at 30A, you need a 2600mAh cell for good performance at that current.
I am working on a new table with sorting and filtering that can be used to help with this kind of questions, here is a bit from sorted for 30A current and filtered for 18650 cells:

The full size picture is here: http://lygte-info.dk/pic/BatteryIndex/30AFW.png

 

[SubLGT]

...what is the highest current 18650 available

Probably the 2000mAh Samsung 20S

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/t...g-18650-right-now-beats-hb6-and-vtc6a.864225/

This is a great performing cell. Until now the only 30A 18650's we had were the 1500mAh LG HB2/4/6. The Samsung 20S not only has increased capacity over those cells but it performs MUCH better too, giving us a lot more vaping time at high current levels.

It hits harder than any other 18650 down to about 3.3V and appears to have a true 30A rating.

At lower current levels, under 20A or so, there are better higher capacity choices. But at 30A the Samsung 20S is the clear winner. In the 20A-30A range it is a close race between the 20S and the VTC5A/5D/6A. You'll have to test them to see which performs better for the way you vape

 

[MAD777]

I am working on a new table with sorting and filtering that can be used to help with this kind of questions, here is a bit from sorted for 30A current and filtered for 18650 cells:

HKJ, you are the BEST!!!