Lemax LX70 Superpower HID Light

The_Driver

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There is nothing they can do which would substantially increase performance. I guess they could ar-coate the lens for an extra 5-6% output.


UHP bulbs can't be used in a production light. Also they would have a much slower startup and reduce runtime or brightness (they are less efficient).

A more powerful metal halide bulb would be possible, but again less runtime and much slower startup.
 
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There is nothing they can do which would substantially increase performance. I guess they could ar-coate the lens for an extra 5-6% output.
UHP bulbs can't be used in a production light. Also they would have a much slower startup and reduce runtime or brightness (they are less efficient).

A more powerful metal halide bulb would be possible, but again less runtime and much slower startup.

He is 100% correct on all points 100 watt is not really possible. the limiting factor is, THERE ARE NO QUALITY BULBS for THIS PARTICULAR HID TECHNOLOGY beyond the "FATBOY" DL50, the max it can or should be considered to be run at is somewhere between 80 and 85 bulb watts, TBD by Xevision which it could or would be (80 or 85) if we were to proceed with the below project.

The only thing left to push this technology to its final edge, and only we (XeVision) can and could do to create the LX70 Superpower "Ultra" ( with a custom new ballast, different bulb and our igniters ) , is push a DL50 "fatboy" bulb to 80 or 85 watts (a 10 bulb watt increase adding maybe 1200 (80w) - 1900 (85w) additional Lumens), we don't see a "real" market for it though.
We don't see a real (100's of units) market for even the standard 50/70 Superpower, so we never sold it.
The "Ultra" Superpower we could call it, might sell 10 to 20 units worldwide for a few hardcore flashaholics, with lots of money to spend. Maybe $3,500 to $4,000 with a prebuy group buy only 1 or 2 runs limited edition.
Not sure at this point if the low end would stay 50W or move up to say 60W.
Lets see how much activity we get here on this idea. If enough serious interest, we could consider to offer a very limited edition for it.
Whoever wants to take the ball and run with it to "test the waters", make a new Thread "XeVision Superpower "Ultra" 80 or 85 Watt (TBD)". Copy and paste ONLY this ENTIRE post Including, The_Driver's comment shown here.
 
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So U.S. customers interested in the Superpower still have to purchase from Lemax. I didn't realize XeVision doesn't sell that version... I just check the website.

My comment about waiting for the LX100 was in jest.
 

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So U.S. customers interested in the Superpower still have to purchase from Lemax. I didn't realize XeVision doesn't sell that version... I just check the website.
My comment about waiting for the LX100 was in jest.

Yes for standard Superpower units. However, if we get some committed interest on the "ULTRA" post 226 (2 above). A very special and powerful beast it would be indeed, for the most discriminating small group of elite buyers.
We would probably limit it to 10 or 20 units total. But lets see if there is any interest for an ~ 8,800 to ~10,000 Lumens (TBD) from a Superpower "ULTRA".
The existing Superpowers are about 7600 Lumens.
To do this project we only need to make a special run of our ballasts, projected 2 to 3 months lead time.
We have the bulbs and Igniters in stock at all times.
 
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Dan, what was the 250-Watt light going to be back a few years when you posted sort of an interest gathering post?

Can you be more specific ?
It was going to be about 20,000 lumens or so, but the proper bulb used takes close to a minute to reach full output and starts out as bright as a "candle" for the first 30 seconds.
Not very practical in most applications.
 

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Could you also put the Ultra ballast in the LX50 II? :devil:

All of these "puck" type ballasts are identical in size and function, only the internal power output settings and some internal components are different.
In theory yes, but we would never consider doing that to the LX50-II, only upgrading it to a 50/70 we will consider.
Normal 50/70 or the Superpower we will consider doing it.
 

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Anyone seen bulbmogul? I need some beam shots!


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:crackup:
 

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But seriously... I read where the Superpower had been on sale for a little over two grand a while back. I might pull the trigger on that if I could get that same deal.

Is the Superpower as incredible as the Lemax beam pics make it seem? With 4.5m cd, I'm trying to imagine how it would look next to the BLF GT. Obviously far superior, but wondering if the human eye can truly identify that.
 

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Karl, I tried several times to reply to your message but it won't send.

Here's what I wrote...

I don't think I could afford one right now Karl. I might splurge for a Superpower if I could get one for two grand tho. Is it as incredible as it seems?
 

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Yeah, way more power, 12Mcd if you get the Gen 3 or I think around 6Mcd for the gen 2.
They also can be found used for around $1000 or less on occasion :)
 

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The MB definitely throws a more intense but much smaller hotspot downfield. I find that the MB hotspot is bright but too small to identify a large tree at about 900 Yards. You can see that something is lit up but the spot is too small to ID what you're looking at. With the Lemax, it is not as bright but is bright enough to light up and identify that same tree, even out to 1300 Yards.
 

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