2XAA General Use Light Recomendations

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Looking for a 2XAA general use Light including camping, hunting and other miscellaneous duties that won't break the bank (questionnaire below). To date I have been using the Maglite 2xAA LED and a 2xD LED for around the house so this will be my first "real" flashlight.

1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
__X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____Less than $25.
____Less than $50.
__X__Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I'm flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

__X__I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
__X__Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
__X__Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don't care.
____I don't know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

__X__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

____I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
__X__I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a "host" or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a "drop-in" emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

__X__I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today's most powerful lights)
__X__I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
__X__I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
____I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

__X__I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
__X__I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
____I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

__X__Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
__X__Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
__X__5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
__X__30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
__X__50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
__X__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don't know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today's high end lights).
__X__I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
__X__I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
__X__I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don't care.
____I don't know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today's flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
__X__I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

I have been doing some reading on the forums and some of the popular picks were the Quark AA2, Fenix LD20, Fenix TK20, EagleTec P20MkII, I like the Quark AA^2 Regular so far, but your suggestions are welcome.
 
You checked the box for using a host with a drop-in. If that is the case, none of the lights you mention can do that. There are only two routes that I know of that use AA batteries. Perhaps someone else knows of more.

1) Dereelight Javelin can use 2xAA or 3xAA batteries (with optional extension tube). comes with a P60 size drop-in so you can upgrade or chage to different drop-ins. It has 3 brightness levels and remembers that last one that you used. It starts on the last brightness level used next time the light is turned on. It is the only AA light with mode memory (that I know of).

2) Malkoff M31 drop-in with a p60 size 2xAA host.

You also mention that you want to use it close up and up to 150 meters. You really can't have both. The dereelight Javelin is the farthest throwing AA but it will not get to 150 meters.
 
A romisen is a pretty cheap way to go at 25 bucks.

This light has 2 modes, which is not ideal but not bad. The neat thing about it is that you can convert it into a 1xCR123 light if you wanted to carry it somewhere which makes it much smaller.
The light is quite bright and runs the latest XP-G emitter.

http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-214/Romisen-RC-dsh-N3-II-CREE/Detail


There is also a 2xAA roundup that you can check out.
 
Looks like you need a 4sevens Quark AA^2. :cool:

This should fulfill all your requirements ... apart from throw. I've never really been that impressed with the throw on the regular Quarks. Been thinking about getting a turbo head if that's even possible...
 
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You checked 2-4" and 4-7" for a 2AA light. 2*AA batteries is already 4". Can't think of any current 2AA side by side battery lights.

In addition to the Quark AA2 Regular and Quark AA2 Tactical*** there is the new Quark Mini AA2. Twisty interface but only 5" long - a full inch shorter than other 2AA lights. Fits in my jeans back pocket with just the clip showing. I would say this is the only 2AA that is EDCable. Lo-Med-Hi with the annoying blinking modes 'hidden' (Lo-Med-Hi-Lo-Med-Hi-strobe-SOS-beacon1-beacon2).

*** The way the Quark AA2 Regular and Quark AA2 Tactical operates is quite different. Find out which suits you best.
 
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You checked 2-4" and 4-7" for a 2AA light. 2*AA batteries is already 4". Can't think of any current 2AA side by side battery lights.

The Streamlight Sidewinder is a 2AA side by side. The white LED is not very bright on the highest setting and the colored 5mm LEDs are underwhelming but I still use it from time to time around the house.
 
Quark is a great choice, but you might want to go for the Turbo rather than the standard AA^2. The standard lights have a very floody beam and might not give you the long-distance performance you're hoping for.

Then again, compared to your Maglites, the standard Quark will be pretty impressive, even at a distance.
 
You checked the box for using a host with a drop-in. If that is the case, none of the lights you mention can do that. There are only two routes that I know of that use AA batteries. Perhaps someone else knows of more.
I checked the box "I would consider getting a light that is pieced together..." this is not a requirement but I am open to considering any that may exist.

You also mention that you want to use it close up and up to 150 meters. You really can't have both. The dereelight Javelin is the farthest throwing AA but it will not get to 150 meters.
I would be more interested in something for closer ranges but would be nice to be able to flash it out across a field when hunting. I realize not all the "wants" may be able to be met and I am willing to compromise to the light that meets most of them.
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You checked 2-4" and 4-7" for a 2AA light. 2*AA batteries is already 4". Can't think of any current 2AA side by side battery lights.
I wasn't sure of any decent side by sides that existed just trying to make the point that anything in that range would be acceptable.

In addition to the Quark AA2 Regular and Quark AA2 Tactical*** there is the new Quark Mini AA2. Twisty interface but only 5" long - a full inch shorter than other 2AA lights. Fits in my jeans back pocket with just the clip showing. I would say this is the only 2AA that is EDCable. Lo-Med-Hi with the annoying blinking modes 'hidden' (Lo-Med-Hi-Lo-Med-Hi-strobe-SOS-beacon1-beacon2).

*** The way the Quark AA2 Regular and Quark AA2 Tactical operates is quite different. Find out which suits you best.
Yea I have been looking at the Mini's as well think I would like to stick to a full size Quark AA2 for now, I like to extra modes they offer, although the Single AA mini will be on my wish list in the near future. the nice option with these is that I can get the extra tubes in the future and have AA2 and AA of each.

I have compared the Regular and Tactical and the Regular suits my needs better from what I can tell. I don't like the tactical only being able to access the two programmed modes and having to replace one of the programmed modes to access another.

Thanks for all the replies
 
A romisen is a pretty cheap way to go at 25 bucks.

This light has 2 modes, which is not ideal but not bad. The neat thing about it is that you can convert it into a 1xCR123 light if you wanted to carry it somewhere which makes it much smaller.
The light is quite bright and runs the latest XP-G emitter.

http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-214/Romisen-RC-dsh-N3-II-CREE/Detail


There is also a 2xAA roundup that you can check out.

Yea the price seems cheap enough...any comments on reliability of these? I will do a little searching of the forums for the 2xAA Roundup.

Thanks for the suggestion
 
You can't beat the Deree Javelin in term of throw. Especially when you use 3xAAs to get full brightness out of the LED.

Can't really do that with any other AA based light.
 
Another possibility might be the use of a flood to throw light. They are generally in the budget arena, but in full flood they are nice to use up close because there is no glaring hotspot. That is the problem with using a high-throw light up close. That tight hotspot is distracting.

But with a flood to throw, you can adjust it and if you want to see further off, you can transform it to throw mode.

There are a few to consider:
This one uses 3xAAA for a shorter and fatter light.
http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-215/Romisen-RC-dsh-C8-II-Q5/Detail
You can also use 2xCR123 batteries with it.

Theres this 1xAA that uses an XP-G emitter, but with 1xAA it won't be as bright. Should still be decent though.
http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/the-180/**NEW**-Romisen-RC-dsh-29-II/Detail


Anyways, just a thought. It might make for a better general purpose light. Check out some youtube videos for flood to throw and see for yourself if that might be an option.
 
Another unconditional recommendation for the Quark AA2.
Firstly 4Sevens are a great company to deal with. Their products are fantastic, great value and quality, and they have a very customer friendly approach. Shipping to anywhere in the US (and even the UK!) is free and they have a nice discount for CPF members.
The products themselves are exemplary, the AA2 scores impressively in pretty much all areas, and I can't think of anything significantly wrong with it (The two harshest criticisms I have encountered to date being; lumpy threads, solved by changing the grease to something less thick; and a little preflash on the lowest mode) It is obvious that their claim that they listen to and take seriously the views of CPF members is no lie.
To top this off it is also sold at a much lower price than you would expect.
 
Thanks for all the recommendations. I couldn't wait any longer to ensure my light was here for an upcoming trip so I pulled the trigger on a Quark AA2 Regular. I will post back here once I have had a chance to use it a bit.
 
the Single AA mini will be on my wish list in the near future. the nice option with these is that I can get the extra tubes in the future and have AA2 and AA of each.
There had been a problem with the threads of the Mini.
In the past there had been a small small number of complaints about loose heads.
I had a warm white Mini AA. Recently I bought a Mini AA2 thinking of swapping the heads. The head of the AA2 worked on the AA but my AA head won't fit on the AA2 body.:fail: Due to the slight variations in the threads you may or may not be able to Lego the Mini.
 
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