OndrejP_SK
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Hi all,
I've read many threads about dynamo light circuits design, I already have an idea about the various possibilities, and here I'd like to put it all together and ask some questions that are still unclear to me.
I would like to design both front and rear lights.
They should be connected parallel (so that each could be replaced with a commercial light if I feel like it).
The front light:
I want to use the chinese XC-997 as base for this construction. I have a dynamo version, but it lacks standlight which I would like to add when designing my own circuit.
I want to reuse the housing, the reflector and the board with LED which is XM-L at the moment.
using single LED in the front light would clamp the voltage of the whole system to something like Vf of LED (2.9V) + Vf of rectifier bridge (0.8V) and I coule only use ca 400-450mA for the LED. However I read about a design with buck converter ( http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?334214-dynamo-light-with-single-LED and http://minisystem.blogspot.sk/2012/01/dynamo-digital-buck-converter-progress.html ) which should in principle allow increase of current flowing through the LED when the dynamo voltage is more than the 3.7V of the front light as seen by the dynamo while at the same time increase the impedance of the front light so I wouldn't clamp the voltage to 3.7V.
Is this doable with a simple integrated chip switching buck converter like LM2575/LM2576 or is all the fancy 'load matching' and PIC necessary ?
Another option is to add a couple of diodes in series with the LED to increase the Vf of the light and to rise the voltage usable for 5.5V/1F supercap.
Now that I mentioned the supercap - I am considering using the supercap as source for 555 timer to make the standlight a blinky becuase I think that when standing in the middle of a junction at traffic lights a blinky would make me more visible. But I could also use a simple current limiting resistor to drive the LED from the supercap.
I would also like to use a P-channel FET transistor to enable the standlight when the dynamo voltage drops to zero. I've seen circuit designs with PNP bipolar transistor to achieve the same goal, but could the FET be also used ? if operates only with voltage (and uA of current) so would not steal current from the LED... right ?
The rear light:
I bought an additional rear fog light for cars - it's a simple 2 part box (13x6x5cm) with one half translucent red and a reflector inside. There is plenty space for mounting almost any circuit inside of this housing.
The rear light should pull about 50-100mA.
I was going to use 2 or 3 10mm oval LEDs with Vf 2.1V and Ifm 50mA and standlight powering only 1 of the LEDs (again in blinky mode) but might consider also some higher current versions (some 350mA red leds on star from fasttech or dx). 2 standard round LEDs are easier to mount in the original reflector of the housing. placing 2 stars could be more complicated.
To rise the voltage for charging the supercap close to its maximum 5.5V I would need a total voltage of the LED string about 5.5-6V, and together with rectifier bridge the overall voltage of the rear light would be 6.2-6.8V. I could use 2 LEDs and add some silicone or schottky diodes in series to get the desired voltage.
The front + rear combination
A question of how to ballance the front / rear light current is something I'm not sure how to answer. I've read that I could use a resistor in series with the rear light to adjust how much current the rear light gets. Is there some other way ? I found a switching current regulator NCP3065 but I'm not sure it would be worth the complexity.
Or maybe LM317 in constant current mode ? (edit: probably not because the LM317 would try to reach the set current even in slow speed when there isn't enough current in the whole system)
Please I would be very grateful if you could help me clarify some the things I've got wrong or that I don't fully understand. Thank you in advance.
I've read many threads about dynamo light circuits design, I already have an idea about the various possibilities, and here I'd like to put it all together and ask some questions that are still unclear to me.
I would like to design both front and rear lights.
They should be connected parallel (so that each could be replaced with a commercial light if I feel like it).
The front light:
I want to use the chinese XC-997 as base for this construction. I have a dynamo version, but it lacks standlight which I would like to add when designing my own circuit.
I want to reuse the housing, the reflector and the board with LED which is XM-L at the moment.
using single LED in the front light would clamp the voltage of the whole system to something like Vf of LED (2.9V) + Vf of rectifier bridge (0.8V) and I coule only use ca 400-450mA for the LED. However I read about a design with buck converter ( http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?334214-dynamo-light-with-single-LED and http://minisystem.blogspot.sk/2012/01/dynamo-digital-buck-converter-progress.html ) which should in principle allow increase of current flowing through the LED when the dynamo voltage is more than the 3.7V of the front light as seen by the dynamo while at the same time increase the impedance of the front light so I wouldn't clamp the voltage to 3.7V.
Is this doable with a simple integrated chip switching buck converter like LM2575/LM2576 or is all the fancy 'load matching' and PIC necessary ?
Another option is to add a couple of diodes in series with the LED to increase the Vf of the light and to rise the voltage usable for 5.5V/1F supercap.
Now that I mentioned the supercap - I am considering using the supercap as source for 555 timer to make the standlight a blinky becuase I think that when standing in the middle of a junction at traffic lights a blinky would make me more visible. But I could also use a simple current limiting resistor to drive the LED from the supercap.
I would also like to use a P-channel FET transistor to enable the standlight when the dynamo voltage drops to zero. I've seen circuit designs with PNP bipolar transistor to achieve the same goal, but could the FET be also used ? if operates only with voltage (and uA of current) so would not steal current from the LED... right ?
The rear light:
I bought an additional rear fog light for cars - it's a simple 2 part box (13x6x5cm) with one half translucent red and a reflector inside. There is plenty space for mounting almost any circuit inside of this housing.
The rear light should pull about 50-100mA.
I was going to use 2 or 3 10mm oval LEDs with Vf 2.1V and Ifm 50mA and standlight powering only 1 of the LEDs (again in blinky mode) but might consider also some higher current versions (some 350mA red leds on star from fasttech or dx). 2 standard round LEDs are easier to mount in the original reflector of the housing. placing 2 stars could be more complicated.
To rise the voltage for charging the supercap close to its maximum 5.5V I would need a total voltage of the LED string about 5.5-6V, and together with rectifier bridge the overall voltage of the rear light would be 6.2-6.8V. I could use 2 LEDs and add some silicone or schottky diodes in series to get the desired voltage.
The front + rear combination
A question of how to ballance the front / rear light current is something I'm not sure how to answer. I've read that I could use a resistor in series with the rear light to adjust how much current the rear light gets. Is there some other way ? I found a switching current regulator NCP3065 but I'm not sure it would be worth the complexity.
Or maybe LM317 in constant current mode ? (edit: probably not because the LM317 would try to reach the set current even in slow speed when there isn't enough current in the whole system)
Please I would be very grateful if you could help me clarify some the things I've got wrong or that I don't fully understand. Thank you in advance.
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