Anyone know when Fenix might put out lights based on the new Crees?
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Marduke
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Huh?? Nearly all of their lights uses Q-bin Cree's, which is the best which can be bought in any quantity. Most of their lights are Q5 bin currently.
matrixshaman
Flashlight Enthusiast
Not sure where you are seeing non-Cree Fenix but look at www.fenix-store.com or www.4sevens.com - should be lots of them at on or the other web sites.
cdosrun
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Do you mean the new LEDs such as the MC-E?
Andrew
Andrew
Bronco
Enlightened
Or maybe R2?
This is what Fenix's email reply when i asked them about the CREE R2 " As far as I know, recently, there is no plan for the update of P3D to R2 LED".
Looks like its going to take a while for Fenix to come up with a newer LED.
Looks like its going to take a while for Fenix to come up with a newer LED.
Marduke
Flashaholic
I think a lot of people think the "Bin" is an entire new model of LED. Cree Q5 and R2 is the exact same model of LED, and there is only a very small percentage difference between them. Even side by side, you would barely be able to tell the difference.
The R2 is not a "newer LED". It's same same model which has been in production for over a year now.
The R2 is not a "newer LED". It's same same model which has been in production for over a year now.
rizky_p
Flashlight Enthusiast
This is what Fenix's email reply when i asked them about the CREE R2 " As far as I know, recently, there is no plan for the update of P3D to R2 LED".
Looks like its going to take a while for Fenix to come up with a newer LED.
considering a small increase from Q5 to R2, it seems logical
HKJ
Flashaholic
The last Fenix emitter update was from P4 to Q5, skipping Q2, Q3 and Q4.
The P4 is 80 lumen (at 350 mA), the Q5 is 107 lumen, that is about 33 % more light.
To get the same increase again Fenix need to use the R4 with 130 lumen.
The P4 is 80 lumen (at 350 mA), the Q5 is 107 lumen, that is about 33 % more light.
To get the same increase again Fenix need to use the R4 with 130 lumen.
That's what I meant, higher bin performance. I assumed the brighter/more efficient were newer LEDs.
LEDrock
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What is an MC-E? This is the first I've ever heard mention of it. Is this a new LED that is even better than a Cree? Is there any lights using it right now?
m16a
Enlightened
MC-E is a CREE LED that'll be 4 die. But it has the same dome size as the current XR-E generation. Very much looking forward to seeing the MC-E:thumbsup:
Jarl
Flashlight Enthusiast
I'll go so far as to say that on a blind test, you won't be able to tell the difference.
Marduke
Flashaholic
Most of their lights already use Q2-Q5 bins. For mass production, you can't get large quantities of anything better. Going from bin to bin is only VERY small efficiency increases, NOTHING like the jump we saw going from Lux I's and Lux III's to Cree XR-E's.
Jarl said "blind test" in a flashlight forum! 
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