Unforgiven
Flashlight Enthusiast
Have there been more LE's made? Some of the online sites say they have them again.
ARC AAA LE
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Darell
Flashaholic
Yeah, I was just hearing about that too. I don't know what's up with that. I hadn't heard any official news.
Well I had one on back order for months with One Stop Knife and they called me today to see if I still wanted one since they just got some in. In passing, the guy mentioned that they also got in some LS1's. He said he had these guys in his hands. I forgot to ask if the LE's had french on the pack because I was too excited about the LS1's. :-)
fasteddie
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Onestopknifeshop has some on hand. TTS says they're getting some. Ordered a couple from the former, haven't seen them yet.
Unforgiven
Flashlight Enthusiast
If they were in production again I would like to know what is limited about the latest batch!
Darell
Flashaholic
This is a never-ending debate. I felt the same way, but the majority of respondents didn't share my view the last time this was brought up. Mostly what makes them "LE" is the words "Limited Edition" around the barrel. That and the fact that there certainly are fewer of them around.
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txwest
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I have a Limited Edition '91 Honda Accord. They didn't call it that, but when the '92's came out, they quit makeing the '91, thereby makeing it a "limited edition".
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JollyRoger
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Ah, yes! Very true....
More ARC LE's have been produced. Version 3.1
I'm holding two as we speak.
I guess they're limited b/c of the sometimes "limited" availability of the nichias used in the product.
More ARC LE's have been produced. Version 3.1
I'm holding two as we speak.
I guess they're limited b/c of the sometimes "limited" availability of the nichias used in the product.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JollyRoger:
Ah, yes! Very true....
More ARC LE's have been produced. Version 3.1
I'm holding two as we speak.
I guess they're limited b/c of the sometimes "limited" availability of the nichias used in the product.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now I'm more confused. What is the difference between the Arc LE 3.1 and the Arc AAA 3.1 (is it just the tint of the led and the casing). Are both equally bright ?
sylvestor.
Ah, yes! Very true....
More ARC LE's have been produced. Version 3.1
I'm holding two as we speak.
I guess they're limited b/c of the sometimes "limited" availability of the nichias used in the product.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now I'm more confused. What is the difference between the Arc LE 3.1 and the Arc AAA 3.1 (is it just the tint of the led and the casing). Are both equally bright ?
sylvestor.
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Now this is an interesting question and I think I have a bit of info that will deepen the mystery.
A couple of weeks ago I sent my LE 3.0 in for the flicker fix and when it returned last weekend, some things were different.
First, the LED tint is different. Instead of being white, it's more blueish. Second, they returned the same barrel but the head was different. Instead of the off-matched (this is a new word and I'm using it here for the first time) head, this one matches the barrel perfectly. The original was rather dark.
So this makes me think that either there are new LEs on the way or that they had spare HA heads in stock and put in the 3.1 LED. The 3.0 LED was distinctly different from the one I have now.
A couple of weeks ago I sent my LE 3.0 in for the flicker fix and when it returned last weekend, some things were different.
First, the LED tint is different. Instead of being white, it's more blueish. Second, they returned the same barrel but the head was different. Instead of the off-matched (this is a new word and I'm using it here for the first time) head, this one matches the barrel perfectly. The original was rather dark.
So this makes me think that either there are new LEs on the way or that they had spare HA heads in stock and put in the 3.1 LED. The 3.0 LED was distinctly different from the one I have now.
Gransee
Flashlight Enthusiast
Hehee.
Don't you like a little mystery? Actually, I would have posted here, but the CPF was down for 9 days! We have been busy in the meantime...
This past week, we shipped 3.1 LEs and 1.2 LS firsts (the latest version) out to the dealers.
This small batch of LSs have a $99.95 list price. The reason for the old price was this was a fullfillment (finally!) of the orders the dealers placed last year so we honored the old price. After this, the price will go up to the regular $160.
These firsts have the freshest stock of batwing whites, 123 optomized heads and latest tint and beam quality.
The Arc-AAA Limited Editions (LE) are only being shipped to the dealers. You cannot buy it from our website. These are the latest version (3.1) and have the new roll crimp. The LED is a Nichia SB1 of course and the finish is "natural" HA to match your LS.
As far as the "limited" nature of this product, it is not as limited as some may think. Of course, it isn't unlimited either (as the many people who have tried in vain to find these for sale can tell you).
These units are the brighest LEs overall we have every made. They incorporate the latest stock from Nichia and an improved output capacitor which increases efficiency slightly (low power consumption, higher output). A tiny improvement, but an improvement nevertheless.
Enjoy!
Peter Gransee
ps- it is good to have the CPF back!
This past week, we shipped 3.1 LEs and 1.2 LS firsts (the latest version) out to the dealers.
This small batch of LSs have a $99.95 list price. The reason for the old price was this was a fullfillment (finally!) of the orders the dealers placed last year so we honored the old price. After this, the price will go up to the regular $160.
These firsts have the freshest stock of batwing whites, 123 optomized heads and latest tint and beam quality.
The Arc-AAA Limited Editions (LE) are only being shipped to the dealers. You cannot buy it from our website. These are the latest version (3.1) and have the new roll crimp. The LED is a Nichia SB1 of course and the finish is "natural" HA to match your LS.
As far as the "limited" nature of this product, it is not as limited as some may think. Of course, it isn't unlimited either (as the many people who have tried in vain to find these for sale can tell you).
These units are the brighest LEs overall we have every made. They incorporate the latest stock from Nichia and an improved output capacitor which increases efficiency slightly (low power consumption, higher output). A tiny improvement, but an improvement nevertheless.
Enjoy!
Peter Gransee
ps- it is good to have the CPF back!
As anyone who is fortunate enough to own one of the 'earlier' Arc-LE's, the best and most important feature (and why I paid $40 for my first one) was the whiter, warmer, and brighter S rank Nichia LED, IMHO. I like the HA finish, but I love the light my Arc-LE puts out. I simply never use my 'regular' Arc-AAA anymore, as my Arc-LE lives on a comfortable nylon cord around my neck 24/7.
And, I'm *really* glad, from the sounds of the V 3.1, that I bought a 'spare' Arc-LE, not expecting to see them available again.
Perhaps the LED's in the V 3.1 are simply not as good as the ones used in earlier runs of the Arc-LE. I'd be interested to see beamshots of a standard Arc-AAA, a V 3.0 Arc-LE, and a V 3.1 Arc-LE
Probably, the V 3.1 Arc-LE's still have a superior color and output LED, compared to the 'regular' Nichia LED's used in the Arc-AAA. I'm guessing, of course.
Arc Flashlight is, as everyone knows, at the mercy of their LED suppliers, as is most obvious in the greenish halo from the more recently produced Luxeon Star LED's.
The newest batch of S-rank Nichia's are likely simply not quite as nice as the earlier ones were. Or perhaps some are simply a little more blue than others.
AS an aside, I ordered an EternaLight Elite X-ray for a fellow overseas when they were first available, and when I checked the light, one LED was very blue, compared to the other three, and the LED's in the Elite Xray I had already purchased.
I sent it back to Technology Associates, and they quickly replaced it, of course. It wasn't obvious until I shined the light at a white wall at a close distance; then it was easy to see. I doubt that individual LED *wasn't* sold as an S rank LED, but it certainly wasn't as nice as the other three.
And, I'm *really* glad, from the sounds of the V 3.1, that I bought a 'spare' Arc-LE, not expecting to see them available again.
Perhaps the LED's in the V 3.1 are simply not as good as the ones used in earlier runs of the Arc-LE. I'd be interested to see beamshots of a standard Arc-AAA, a V 3.0 Arc-LE, and a V 3.1 Arc-LE
Probably, the V 3.1 Arc-LE's still have a superior color and output LED, compared to the 'regular' Nichia LED's used in the Arc-AAA. I'm guessing, of course.
Arc Flashlight is, as everyone knows, at the mercy of their LED suppliers, as is most obvious in the greenish halo from the more recently produced Luxeon Star LED's.
The newest batch of S-rank Nichia's are likely simply not quite as nice as the earlier ones were. Or perhaps some are simply a little more blue than others.
AS an aside, I ordered an EternaLight Elite X-ray for a fellow overseas when they were first available, and when I checked the light, one LED was very blue, compared to the other three, and the LED's in the Elite Xray I had already purchased.
I sent it back to Technology Associates, and they quickly replaced it, of course. It wasn't obvious until I shined the light at a white wall at a close distance; then it was easy to see. I doubt that individual LED *wasn't* sold as an S rank LED, but it certainly wasn't as nice as the other three.
I had intentions of starting a new topic to ask this but what the heck...
It's (finally) time to order my first Arc flashlight. Should I hunt down one of the new 3.1 LEs?
I have a new Brinkmann Rebel as well and while nice night it is, and I KNOW it "ain't no arc", the LED is so blue (Compared to my Energizer Folding LED, currently my only other white LED product but the collection is quickly growing) it drives me nuts!
In short, if the led in the 3.1 LEs is blueish would I personally be further off with a regular Arc AAA? Another consideration is this: in the future it will PROBABLY get a lanyard but for the time being this is going to be carried on my keys...will a black Arc take abuse better than a LE coulored one?
It's (finally) time to order my first Arc flashlight. Should I hunt down one of the new 3.1 LEs?
I have a new Brinkmann Rebel as well and while nice night it is, and I KNOW it "ain't no arc", the LED is so blue (Compared to my Energizer Folding LED, currently my only other white LED product but the collection is quickly growing) it drives me nuts!
In short, if the led in the 3.1 LEs is blueish would I personally be further off with a regular Arc AAA? Another consideration is this: in the future it will PROBABLY get a lanyard but for the time being this is going to be carried on my keys...will a black Arc take abuse better than a LE coulored one?
Unforgiven
Flashlight Enthusiast
They both have the same finish other than the color.
Ok. LE it is, somone was saying something about it being blue so...Like I said I don't know what's up with it but I LIKE the LEDs in my Energizer folding LED, nice and white, but the LED in the Brinkmann is almost blue!
Darell
Flashaholic
I'm just down-right giddy about all this. Yes I DO like surprises, provided I get in on the fun like I did this time. Woohoo!
Sucks when you miss it though.
Sucks when you miss it though.
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