Arcmania/Deft

[Chris H]

Hi,

I am looking to complete my collection (for now anyway!) and so am looking for an aspherical that will blow away my eagletac M2XC4 not just beat it. I have looked at the DEFT and X6 but cannot seem to compare what they are like in reality. What kind of otf outputs are they?

Am I missing anything in the search for a demon aspherical?!

Thanks
Chris

 

[bigchelis]

Hi,

So, you want a light that will be much brighter than 650 lumens and with what I take is more throw to boot. Sorry, but from the aRcMania 6 die light I saw tested they make the similar lumens. In fact, I have seen 3 custom 6 Die Osram lights and all make 400~680 OTF max lumens.

Now the DEFT FTP I tested it without the ASpheric and it does 250ish OTF lumens, with the Aspheric it will loose a little bit of the lumens. Most Aspherics loose up to 50% of the light, but the DEFT manages to salvage a lot of the lumens via his 2 lens or collimator system.

My suggestion to you is to get an SST-50 driven hard at 5A. This will net you 1000ihs OTF lumens and if the bezel is 2in plus a ton of throw. Really these SST-50's have some serious throw power, but no where near as much as the DEFT.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=260659

bigc

 

[saabluster]

Hi,

I am looking to complete my collection (for now anyway!) and so am looking for an aspherical that will blow away my eagletac M2XC4 not just beat it. I have looked at the DEFT and X6 but cannot seem to compare what they are like in reality. What kind of otf outputs are they?

Am I missing anything in the search for a demon aspherical?!

Thanks
Chris

The DEFT and the X6 are very different lights despite the fact they are both lensed. The X6 puts out a little over three times the light at the emitter than the DEFT and has an adjustable beam if I remember correctly. The DEFT will out-throw it by quite a bit and weighs significantly less. I am working on a slightly throw enhanced version as well. Still trying to source all the parts so have no figures as yet but it should be quite exciting.

 

[Chris H]

Thanks guys,

It really has to be some kind of 1000lumen OTF Aspheric that would be perfect as I already have a couple of 'normal' beam lights of 1800 and 3600 lumens so am after a 'beast' of a spot (but without the size of the SR90!)

Cheers

Chris

 

[recDNA]

Beyond 200 yards I can't really see much without binoculars...unless an object is moving.

Anyway, at a distance of 200 yards about how big would the Deft hotspot be? Would the light be bright enough to discern a deer from a lawn ornamental deer at that distance?

 

[toby_pra]

Hi,

So, you want a light that will be much brighter than 650 lumens and with what I take is more throw to boot. Sorry, but from the aRcMania 6 die light I saw tested they make the similar lumens. In fact, I have seen 3 custom 6 Die Osram lights and all make 400~680 OTF max lumens.

You must have made bad experiences with 6die Ostar lights...:naughty:

Mine 6die Ostarlights (SFIII Prototype, modded old SFIII and SFV)
have defintly more than 650lumes out of the front. Much more! :thinking:

@Chris

You wont find a stock light with such a beam and in a smaller size.

The Deft and the X6 are very good choices. You need to make sure, what
beam you like and how far the light should throw.

 

[bigchelis]

You must have made bad experiences with 6die Ostar lights...:naughty:

Mine 6die Ostarlights (SFIII Prototype, modded old SFIII and SFV)
have defintly more than 650lumes out of the front. Much more! :thinking:

@Chris

You wont find a stock light with such a beam and in a smaller size.

The Deft and the X6 are very good choices. You need to make sure, what
beam you like and how far the light should throw.

Check my thread I just tested the SFIII production model and with the SMT LED made 400ish if I remember correctly. Also, I tested a really nice L1 6die mod with a whopping 15 watts put out 500ish.

Of course you can prove me wrong and send me a sample of an Osram 6die light that makes 700 plus lumens. I will say that at least in a Mag light at 15 plus watts they make 650ish OTF, but not 1000 lumens.

From testing similar lights aka 15 watts in L1 or Mag type hosts I must say that the Osram 6die lights get smoking hot and I meant hotttttttt.

Do you notice they heat up much more then the P7, MC-E, or SST-50 counterparts?

bigC

 

[toby_pra]

Hi bigC! :naughty:

You are they gettin really hot, but compared to other flashlights
i never had the feeling that the difference between Led-Lumens
and Out-of-the-Front-Lumens is so high...:thinking:

These diffenrences i recognize only with many chinese lights.

But thats perhaps a kind of "offtopic"

Have you measured the oft-lumens from the M2S already (or M1X)?