Bad News For Shipping/Traveling w/ Li-Ions

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Lithium-ion batteries spark transportation-safety debate

The lithium-ion battery quietly fuels modern life. It powers our iPhones, iPads, BlackBerrys and laptops. It's in the next round of electric cars coming to market. It also has a safety record peppered with fires and recalls.

By Jia Lynn Yang

July 30, 2010

The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — The lithium-ion battery fuels modern life. It powers iPhones, iPads, BlackBerrys and laptops. It's in the next round of electric cars coming to market.

It also has a safety record peppered with fires and recalls. Now the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) wants to toughen rules for how the batteries — and devices containing them — are shipped on cargo airplanes. If finalized, the proposed changes would require shippers to treat iPhones as hazardous materials on par with flammable paint or dry ice, with the full weight of regulation and added costs that come with that classification.

Companies such as Apple, UPS and Best Buy say they support stricter safety standards but are worried the rules could wreak havoc on supply chains. They warn the changes could raise prices for consumers. And it's a testament to the ubiquity of the lithium-ion battery that the dispute over the transportation proposal has embroiled everyone from trade partners such as Israel and South Korea to airline pilots, medical-device makers and the National Funeral Directors Association.

Lithium-ion batteries have skyrocketed in popularity because they're lighter and smaller than other batteries. More than 3.3 billion lithium-ion cells were shipped in 2008, according to industry estimates, up from 1.5 billion in 2005.

They have also been known to ignite because they contain a small amount of flammable solvent. If the batteries overheat or short-circuit, in rare cases the solvent can react and catch fire.

Tech companies such as Dell and Lenovo have issued recalls in recent years for laptop batteries at risk of overheating.

Policymakers have since turned their attention to shipments of these batteries, especially after a 2006 incident at Philadelphia International Airport when a UPS cargo plane containing lithium batteries caught fire. The National Transportation Safety Board could not determine the exact cause of the fire.

Such incidents have been enough to alarm airline pilots, however, who have taken up the cause of tightening rules with the support of Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn., chairman of the House transportation committee.

Regulators consider any package containing a lithium-ion battery to be hazardous, but exempt small batteries, such as those contained in cellphones. The Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA), which is part of DOT, has proposed removing that exemption.

Anything containing the batteries would have to be specially packaged and labeled, and anyone shipping it would have to receive hazardous-materials training.

PHMSA would not specify when a decision is expected.

Companies say regulators should focus on better enforcement of existing rules.

New regulations could affect a massive web of companies, including manufacturers, shippers and retailers. They say costs would be staggering. UPS told PHMSA that complying with the rules would cost the company at minimum $264 million in the first year. And the company said doing so in each subsequent year would cost an additional $185 million.

The National Funeral Directors Association says the proposed regulations would affect its members because many deceased that are flown to funerals have pacemakers and defibrillators, which also contain the batteries.

Airline pilots insist regulators move forward with their proposal.

If a battery "overheats on its own and causes a fire," said Mark Rogers, director of the dangerous-goods program for the Air Line Pilots Association, "you need to make sure that situation doesn't become catastrophic."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2012495429_lithium31.html
 
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I've noted that Batteryspace charges a $25 per box hazmat shipping fee for UPS and Fed-Ex for shipping Li-Ions. They do not offer USPS shipment.

I wonder how long it will take for USPS fees to apply with our other favorite battery vendors.
 
It will be interesting to see how this is implemented. It is not only every single cell phone, but most/all laptop, iPad/iPod/MP3 players, etc., uses LiIon cells :mecry:
 
It will be interesting to see how this is implemented. It is not only every single cell phone, but most/all laptop, iPad/iPod/MP3 players, etc., uses LiIon cells :mecry:

Add to that list a fairly large number of digital cameras. Some cordless power tools also use Li-ion batteries. Most cordless shavers & electric toothbrushes seem to be using NiMH batteries, but that could change.

If someone owns a laptop & cell phone & digital camera & iPod then that is 4 devices that use Li-ion batteries and they probably never even stop to think about Li-ion batteries. While I appreciate that there have been some Li-ion failures I'd say that they are pretty safe, consider how many millions of batteries there are in use and how few have actually failed in a catastrophic manner.
 
Sounds retarded that they would put restrictions on small amounts of Li-ion batteries such as a cell phone battery.

I mean I can imagine that shipping a box of 500pcs of 18650 could be dangerious, but shipping properly packaged goods containing Li-ion batteries is NOT dangerious at all.

The batteries don't just randomly ignite when not in use...
 
Australia Post is already refusing to ship ANY Li-ion battery via air freight. Soon enough if we want our batteries shipped, they'll be literally shipped. Hello several month shipping times :(

Edit: I just checked their shipping regulations, they recently expanded it to any Lithium chemistry battery... Even primaries.
 
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Australia Post is already refusing to ship ANY Li-ion battery via air freight. Soon enough if we want our batteries shipped, they'll be literally shipped. Hello several month shipping times :(

Might not be a bad idea to stock up, now.
 
Trouble with "stocking up" on Li-ion batteries is that they age and deteriorate by the mere passage of time, just by sitting around unused.
 
I would appreciate hearing from the battery experts on safe vs protected vs unprotected cells.

It seems to me, the devices having the example issue are packing unprotected cells in which the device itself provides the protection and its the protection that is probably malfunctioning.

While it would not be practical (today) to restrict some cells and not others, would it not make as least as much sense to shift the market over to safe chemistries? Start powering cells phones and laptops with IMRs? Products would have reduced runtimes but could be advertised as "ship safe".
 
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I don't understand why they would introduce more strict regulations. We already have standards for traveling with Lithium-ion batteries.

That is you can't travel on a plane with more then 8 grams of equivalent lithium content, which is equal to about 100 watt-hours.

If they want to be strict, then why not limit regular mail classes to the above 8 gram 100 watt hour limit? Then enforce the a special shipping method for packages that are outside that limit.

This would still allow most hobbyists and flashaholics to source a decent quantity of Li-ion cells through regular mail. (ie 10 or so 18650's in a single shipment, and maybe 30+ RCR123's).
 
The day the don't allow people to have cell phones & laptops on airplanes is the day the airlines die. Given the high percent of lost/damaged check-in baggage, there is no way I would travel without these as carry on. I can live without a flashlight, or take one that uses NiMH. Same with my MP3 player which uses 4 x AA's.
 
The day the don't allow people to have cell phones & laptops on airplanes is the day the airlines die. Given the high percent of lost/damaged check-in baggage, there is no way I would travel without these as carry on. I can live without a flashlight, or take one that uses NiMH. Same with my MP3 player which uses 4 x AA's.
If I remember correctly current policies tend to state that you have to carry lithium-ion-containing devices in your carry-on luggage (not checked luggage) because if it starts a fire then it isn't going to be burning away in the cargo hold without anyone to see it.
 
100 watt hours is only like... 8 18650's

Australia post is tight with its regulations, but luckily for us, most of the rest of the world is not. If you want cheap 18650's there is no problem getting them shipped INTO the country. Just can't post them out.

As for flying, the regulations here adhere to the 8 grams, 100 watt hour regs too, and you have to have them on your person (i.e. not checked) But nobody I have asked at airports seems to know or care about the regs.
 
If I remember correctly current policies tend to state that you have to carry lithium-ion-containing devices in your carry-on luggage (not checked luggage) because if it starts a fire then it isn't going to be burning away in the cargo hold without anyone to see it.

Well right now that OP was only about further proposed regs on cargo, but the more public this risk becomes, the further safety restrictions will develop. All it will take is 1-2 spontaneous fires in the passenger cabin, jeopardizing or causing real loss of life.
 
I think that is the specific reason for carrying in the passenger cabin, if a venting with flame incident happens inside the cabin, it can be dealt with in the air. If it were to happen in the cargo compartment, it could very well start a major incident mid-air that cannot be stopped!

I understand that an exploding device might put out a window, but that wouldn't take down a plane. There were several incidences just in the last year of gas cylinders taking out sections of the plane and not taking it down.

I would prefer to be able to put out a small controllable fire in the passenger cabin than not knowing about it until the plane crashed!
 
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