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Icebreak

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Here's few beamshots, not nearly as good as yours, that are in alignment with your thread. I have a fourth, a custom WA1166 in a 26mm, which is the reason I took the shots. It's in its own thread in incandescents titled "Diameter 26 mm: I want more power. Beamshots" . A pointing link might not be appropriate in an OT kinda way. Anyway, here's my fumblesome contribution:

Locked point and shoot.

45 yards.

Malkoff M60 in a 6P using two AW RCR123s
Malkoff_1347.jpg


P91 in a Z3 using 3 primary CR 123s
Z3_P91_1348.jpg


EO-9L in a Pila GL4 using two Pila cells
Pila_GL4_EO9L_1356.jpg


Same shots just cropped:

Malkoff M60 in a 6P using two AW RCR123s
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P91 in a Z3 using 3 primary CR 123s
Z3_P91_1348cropped.jpg


EO-9L in a Pila GL4 using two Pila cells
Pila_GL4_EO9L_1356cropped.jpg
 

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Nice shots Icebreak. The light painting is nice too. Much patience is required for such an undertaking.

Wow, looks like you ha more bugs buzzin' around you than I did.
 

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Wow great work. I like how the L1 and E1B pretty much have the same output. Thinking of picking up an E1B again...
 

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What's really interesting is that while the L.F. HO-R5's 630 lumens is about the same as the S.F. M3T MN 16's 225 lumens. The L.F. EO-9's 380 is indeed brighter than the S.F. P91's 200 lumens. What's up with that? At first L.F. 630=S.F.225 than L.F.380>S.F.200. I guess the EO-9 is really good. That's cool If I ever get a surefire, I was going to get a P9, well if I do, I'll go with the L.F. upgrade over S.F.
 
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Wonderful pictures. My favorite incan is the LF H09 with two 18500's powering it. I had assumed that there would be only a slight difference between the H09 and the E09, but now I think that I may be wrong. If you have an H09, could you include it in your photos?

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Wonderful pictures. My favorite incan is the LF H09 with two 18500's powering it. I had assumed that there would be only a slight difference between the H09 and the E09, but now I think that I may be wrong. If you have an H09, could you include it in your photos?

John


I want to try the HO9 someday. I do not have it in my humble collection... yet.
 

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Thanks EV_007! this is a nice reference specially on Surefire lights, would be nice if this can be at least on the reviews section so it doesnt get lost in so many posts.
 

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Great pics for comparison. I am really confused now with the SF L1 and E1b though .
I know SF underates the output in general on these types of lights but if the E1b is 80L and the L1 is 65L then why does the L1 seem just a teeny bit briter? I know the L1 has just a bit mor spill but the hotspot is briter to me also. Using the underrated theory the E1b should be 80-100 lumens and the L1 65-80 but ..........
I guess a possible over performing super L1 is in play here? Kinda wish I had the L1 now though
 

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Great pics for comparison. I am really confused now with the SF L1 and E1b though .
I know SF underates the output in general on these types of lights but if the E1b is 80L and the L1 is 65L then why does the L1 seem just a teeny bit briter? I know the L1 has just a bit mor spill but the hotspot is briter to me also. Using the underrated theory the E1b should be 80-100 lumens and the L1 65-80 but ..........
I guess a possible over performing super L1 is in play here? Kinda wish I had the L1 now though

I like the low to high interface of the L1. The beam is not as focused as the E1B. To the naked eye, the E1B throws slightly further than the L1, but the L1 has more of a usable spill, although the compactness of the E1B coupled with the F04 diffuser gives you that extra versatility from flood to spot.
 

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What's really interesting is that while the L.F. HO-R5's 630 lumens is about the same as the S.F. M3T MN 16's 225 lumens. The L.F. EO-9's 380 is indeed brighter than the S.F. P91's 200 lumens. What's up with that? At first L.F. 630=S.F.225 than L.F.380>S.F.200. I guess the EO-9 is really good. That's cool If I ever get a surefire, I was going to get a P9, well if I do, I'll go with the L.F. upgrade over S.F.

The difference between the EO9 and the P91 has to do with the batteries powering them. On equal power, the P91 is brighter.
 

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I like the low to high interface of the L1. The beam is not as focused as the E1B. To the naked eye, the E1B throws slightly further than the L1, but the L1 has more of a usable spill, although the compactness of the E1B coupled with the F04 diffuser gives you that extra versatility from flood to spot.

Man, I already have an E1B, but you guys keep tempting me to get an L1 :D
Thanks for the awesome thread of beamshots; I continually reference back to this thread when considering different lamps/battery options.
 

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What's really interesting is that while the L.F. HO-R5's 630 lumens is about the same as the S.F. M3T MN 16's 225 lumens. The L.F. EO-9's 380 is indeed brighter than the S.F. P91's 200 lumens. What's up with that? At first L.F. 630=S.F.225 than L.F.380>S.F.200. I guess the EO-9 is really good. That's cool If I ever get a surefire, I was going to get a P9, well if I do, I'll go with the L.F. upgrade over S.F.

I don't believe the MN 16 is outputing 225 lumens. The op was powering the M3T using lithium ions. The lamp is overdriven so the output is more than 225 surefire lumens.

So in reality it should be L.F. 630 > S.F. 225. I'd really like to see the MN16 driven with primaries to see how 225 S.F. lumens compares to the L.F. 630 lumens.
 

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Yup, plan on re shooting some of the brighter performers with various battery configurations in both primaries and rechargeables.

Hope to add Gene's latest creations in the line up as well.
 

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WOW, i know this thread is dead but thanks for the shots......now I want to go and trade all my lights in for Surefires.....except for the MD2, I would keep that. Great reference for future use.
 

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