Who makes the baddest Red LED flashlight? Cost& Runtime are not factors; and I'll even consider mods. I have a special application which requires powerful red night vision. Thanks for any suggestions. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif
Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Light?
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Rothrandir
Flashaholic
a red luxeon is likely to provide the highest power.
put it in a mag reflector and overdrive it a bit for some crazy brightness /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
put it in a mag reflector and overdrive it a bit for some crazy brightness /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
tylerdurden
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
would a red luxeon be able to handle 3D direct drive?
Another alternative would be a red 1w luxeon with a downboy400 in a PM6.
would a red luxeon be able to handle 3D direct drive?
Another alternative would be a red 1w luxeon with a downboy400 in a PM6.
tylerdurden
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
Or an inretech Trilight or Super6 with red luxeons!
Or an inretech Trilight or Super6 with red luxeons!
hawkhkg11
Enlightened
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
Your needs would be better met with a spotlight with a red filter, or one of those special hunting spotlights.
Your needs would be better met with a spotlight with a red filter, or one of those special hunting spotlights.
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
Thanks for the responses so far. I do want a handheld; something I can hang on a hand or belt lanyard. The modded PM6 modded sounds cool. I need a good blast of light at a range of up to 80 feet. It is a work light application.
Thanks for the responses so far. I do want a handheld; something I can hang on a hand or belt lanyard. The modded PM6 modded sounds cool. I need a good blast of light at a range of up to 80 feet. It is a work light application.
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Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
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hawkhkg11 said:
Your needs would be better met with a spotlight with a red filter, or one of those special hunting spotlights.
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Thanks for the suggestion. OK-I took an E2e+ (P-61 LA) and put a SF Red Beam Filter on it. It sure is bright and red. It also gets hot fast and I hear they only run 6-7 minutes before going into thermal overload-shutdown. So I want something like this but in an LED.
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hawkhkg11 said:
Your needs would be better met with a spotlight with a red filter, or one of those special hunting spotlights.
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Thanks for the suggestion. OK-I took an E2e+ (P-61 LA) and put a SF Red Beam Filter on it. It sure is bright and red. It also gets hot fast and I hear they only run 6-7 minutes before going into thermal overload-shutdown. So I want something like this but in an LED.
Doug S
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
It should be noted that overdriving red LEDs is less productive than overdriving white and shorter wavelength LEDs. This is because the output of red LEDs suffers more from the elevated temperatures caused by overdriving.
It should be noted that overdriving red LEDs is less productive than overdriving white and shorter wavelength LEDs. This is because the output of red LEDs suffers more from the elevated temperatures caused by overdriving.
Rothrandir
Flashaholic
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
yes, doug brings up a good point.
red, red/orange, and amber luxeons will degrade output considerably if the junction temperature is too high.
a pelican m6 modded with a downboy 400 or 500 would be a good solution i think.
both are overdriving slightly, but not too much.
also keep in mind, that red luxeons need to have their slug electrically isolated, as does the downboy converter.
yes, doug brings up a good point.
red, red/orange, and amber luxeons will degrade output considerably if the junction temperature is too high.
a pelican m6 modded with a downboy 400 or 500 would be a good solution i think.
both are overdriving slightly, but not too much.
also keep in mind, that red luxeons need to have their slug electrically isolated, as does the downboy converter.
radellaf
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
Brightest I've seen is an easy mod, it's the EverLED in red. Works in almost anything, and bright as hell.
I don't think I like bright red. It kills your night vision, which is the only reason I know for having a red flashlight. The MiniMag with Inretech's $5 red/orange spiderLED is as bright @ 110mA as can, IMHO, be useful in red.
Digressing, I'm tempted to get an A2 and the red LEDs do look rather cool but I wonder how much I'd like them. White seems a safer bet. I'd rather have to wait to get a Red LED ring than a white one, when/if the rings are available. Plus, what I think I'd really like, in terms of coolness, is a R-G-B ring /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Brightest I've seen is an easy mod, it's the EverLED in red. Works in almost anything, and bright as hell.
I don't think I like bright red. It kills your night vision, which is the only reason I know for having a red flashlight. The MiniMag with Inretech's $5 red/orange spiderLED is as bright @ 110mA as can, IMHO, be useful in red.
Digressing, I'm tempted to get an A2 and the red LEDs do look rather cool but I wonder how much I'd like them. White seems a safer bet. I'd rather have to wait to get a Red LED ring than a white one, when/if the rings are available. Plus, what I think I'd really like, in terms of coolness, is a R-G-B ring /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
A6,
I have done a few red PM6 modules and they be bright! If I can be of assist, you know how to reach me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif You can even use one of the white reflectors for red flood if the need arrises.........
- Don
A6,
I have done a few red PM6 modules and they be bright! If I can be of assist, you know how to reach me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif You can even use one of the white reflectors for red flood if the need arrises.........
- Don
tvodrd
*Flashaholic* ,
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
A6,
The one in the cave was a red-orange LS, DD on a CR2. I haven't a clue as to what Vf bin the emitter was. It didn't seem to get warm, so I suspect that driven at 350mA and up it would have been scary! (Cans left today.)
Larry
A6,
The one in the cave was a red-orange LS, DD on a CR2. I haven't a clue as to what Vf bin the emitter was. It didn't seem to get warm, so I suspect that driven at 350mA and up it would have been scary! (Cans left today.)
Larry
markus_i
Enlightened
Don't know if he does them in custom configuration already, but have a look at Wayne's (Elektrolumens -> Dealer Forum) Trilight. Even if he won't build it, swapping the whites for reds and maybe some resistors shouldn't be impossible.
Bye
Markus
Bye
Markus
revolvergeek
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
I just got a Surefire L1 yesterday with a RED ls and it is by far the brightest red led light that I have seen. A little too bright for me though, so send me a pm or email if you want to work something out on it.
I just got a Surefire L1 yesterday with a RED ls and it is by far the brightest red led light that I have seen. A little too bright for me though, so send me a pm or email if you want to work something out on it.
INRETECH
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
We make the TriLight in RED the light output is DANGERIOUS
We make the TriLight in RED the light output is DANGERIOUS
JJHitt
Enlightened
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
I'm suprised that no one has pointed out that "bright" and "night vision" are mutually exclusive.
If it's bright enough to perceive what color it is, you're not using night vision.
I'm suprised that no one has pointed out that "bright" and "night vision" are mutually exclusive.
If it's bright enough to perceive what color it is, you're not using night vision.
IsaacHayes
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
But if you are illuminating a large area then maybe you do need bright red... Flood... A red LS I wouldn't DD on 3D. 2D is pushing it I'd say.
But if you are illuminating a large area then maybe you do need bright red... Flood... A red LS I wouldn't DD on 3D. 2D is pushing it I'd say.
Quickbeam
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Brightest, Highest Output & Throw Red LED Ligh
"If it's bright enough to perceive what color it is, you're not using night vision. "
Not exactly true. Red light is invisible to our rods, so it can be bright and you'll retain your "night vision". Problem with very bright red lights is that they leave an afterimage in your field of view from bleaching the red cones in your retina and that afterimage overlaps your rod's field of view in your brain, essentially obliterating your ability to see well until the afterimage goes away.
Moderately dim red light, however, won't leave afterimages, you'll easily be able to see the red color, yet your night vision will be intact.
For every other color though, you're correct. If you can "see" the color, your night vision is being degraded.
"If it's bright enough to perceive what color it is, you're not using night vision. "
Not exactly true. Red light is invisible to our rods, so it can be bright and you'll retain your "night vision". Problem with very bright red lights is that they leave an afterimage in your field of view from bleaching the red cones in your retina and that afterimage overlaps your rod's field of view in your brain, essentially obliterating your ability to see well until the afterimage goes away.
Moderately dim red light, however, won't leave afterimages, you'll easily be able to see the red color, yet your night vision will be intact.
For every other color though, you're correct. If you can "see" the color, your night vision is being degraded.
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OK- A little clarification and some futher questioning of the jury:
I do need a red LED that will provide a very bright beam with throw up to 80 Feet and some useful side spill for close-up work. I will be using it to illuminate a work area for others from medium close quarters to the 80 foot mark-in total darkness. This is not a light for illuminating my own personal work area-and for that application I would get a red L1 and be happy.
Secondly, the PM6 with its great reflector looks like a possible winner. I have the PM6 McModule in white and it kicks out the photons for sure.
Also-the TriLight sounds promising. I wonder just what it is all about?
Can anyone offer a comparison betwwen the McGizmo PM6 Red Mod proposal and the Inretech Trilight Red?
Thanks.
OK- A little clarification and some futher questioning of the jury:
I do need a red LED that will provide a very bright beam with throw up to 80 Feet and some useful side spill for close-up work. I will be using it to illuminate a work area for others from medium close quarters to the 80 foot mark-in total darkness. This is not a light for illuminating my own personal work area-and for that application I would get a red L1 and be happy.
Secondly, the PM6 with its great reflector looks like a possible winner. I have the PM6 McModule in white and it kicks out the photons for sure.
Also-the TriLight sounds promising. I wonder just what it is all about?
Can anyone offer a comparison betwwen the McGizmo PM6 Red Mod proposal and the Inretech Trilight Red?
Thanks.
