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Hi everyone,

Here's an update to my thread and hopefully it'll be useful to someone.


Here's my setup:
  • M6
  • 3x AW 17670 protected batteries from Lighthound
  • 3x AW 17670 protected from AW
  • Fivemega's 3x17670 holder
  • Pila 4-stage charger
  • WF-139 charger
  • MN61
  • HO-M6R
  • HO-M4A
List of tested bulbs.
  • EO-M3T (link) [DOES NOT WORK]
  • HO-M3T (link) [DOES NOT WORK]
  • HO-M6R (link) [works - Tested by me on 4-24-2008]
  • HO-M4A (link) [DOES NOT WORK - Tested by me on 4-24-2008]
  • Fivemega's Bi-Pin adapter (not offered right now) [works]
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  • MN60 [works]
  • MN61 [works - Tested by me on 4-24-2008]
-- Note: I have not tested all bulbs except the ones I indicated. --
 -- The rest were confirmed by members. --
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For the curious,
MN61 is as bright as my Borealis 1050. The hot spot is huge and a bit oval; most will overlook the ovalness because of just how big the hot spot is.

HO-M6R to me seems about a step lower than the MN21. I did not compare the two, simply made comparison judging from memory. The shape of the hot spot is more round but not perfect; it will vary, I believe, because the filament in mine is not centered, it leans more to a side.


Steven
 
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Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

GLOCK18 said:
I would wait for the BI-PIN SOCKET FOR MN LAMP ASSEMBLY BY FIVEMEGA and a WA 1185 bulb http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=126198.

Is'nt the MN61 a 350 lumen bulb
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That's what I was missing, I forgot to include the bi-pin adapter for the M6 in my list. I'll update it. Though he's not offering them right now.

I'm not sure but someone said the MN61 gets overdrive with 3x17670P batteries and suppose to be brighter than MN21.

Steven
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

That would make sense on the MN61, I could not find that info but seems right on that the MN61 would put out more, for now seems cool but I would wait those MN61 are a bit expensive, were hoping for FM's bin holder this month :naughty:


mazingerz9 said:
That's what I was missing, I forgot to include the bi-pin adapter for the M6 in my list. I'll update it. Though he's not offering them right now.

I'm not sure but someone said the MN61 gets overdrive with 3x17670P batteries and suppose to be brighter than MN21.

Steven
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Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

See Beamshots: MN16 vs. MN21 vs. MN61. A drawback of the bi-pin setup is that a bi-pin bulb may not be able to handle shock and vibration as well as a standard SureFire lamp assembly would under duress.
 
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mazingerz9;2436061 So said:
[*]EO-M3T (link)
[*]HO-M3T (link)
[*]HO-M6R (link)
[*]Fivemega's Bi-Pin adapter (not offered right now) [update][/LIST]The above bulbs work with the M6 (so I was told) but they have not been tested with 3x17670P batteries, only R123As. The only exception is Fivemega's Bi-Pin adapter.

Could anyone verify if they work with the setup I chosen?
M6 + Fivemega's 3x17670 holder + AW17670 Protected batteries

Thank you very much.
Steven
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The M3T bulbs will not work with the 3x17670 setup - too much voltage. The HO M6R will work fine, as will the MN60 or 61.
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

adamlau said:
See Beamshots: MN16 vs. MN21 vs. MN61. A drawback of the bi-pin setup is that a bi-pin bulb may not be able to handle shock and vibration as well as a standard SureFire lamp assembly would under duress.
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I already seen the thread and beamshots but thanks for the link. It might be helpful to others as well.

Steven
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

I just ordered a Surefire M6 and MN61 from Surefire themselves. Here's my next question:

Will the MN61 LA fit right into the reflector and M6 without any other modifications?

You guys have been really helpful. Thank you.
Steven
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

Yes. No additional modifications need to be made.
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

mazingerz9 said:
I just ordered a Surefire M6 and MN61 from Surefire themselves. Here's my next question:

Will the MN61 LA fit right into the reflector and M6 without any other modifications?

You guys have been really helpful. Thank you.
Steven
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Why not? The M3T, M4 and M6 all use eaxctly the very same bezel/head.
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

You may want to have a look at this thread before you decide to go with the M61 config...

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=195141

I also just picked up one of the FM 17670 holders and planned on going with the M61 until I saw that thread. mdocod tends to know what he is talking about when it comes to incandescents...

I'm picking up the LF HO-M6R instead.
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

Just finished charging and testing my rechargeable M6. Used the HO-M6R from Lumens Factory. All I can say is WOW! What a light. The beam is so white and bright in daylight! Can hardly wait to try it out tonight. I am very impressed. The size and output of this setup is very impressive. It's a real blow-torch of a light.

Thanks for all the help and heads up on doing this everyone. Especially illum_the_nation and FM for the heads up on the second run of battery holders. A great bunch of people around here! :)
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

BSBG said:
The M3T bulbs will not work with the 3x17670 setup - too much voltage. The HO M6R will work fine, as will the MN60 or 61.
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Are we sure that the MN60 will work? It seems that even the MN61 is hit or miss now.
 
Re: Help: Bulbs for setup - M6 + AW 3x17670P + new FM holder

Patriot36 said:
Are we sure that the MN60 will work? It seems that even the MN61 is hit or miss now.
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I have tried 4 MN60s, no problem. And two MN61s, no problems either :D. All of them have at least a few minutes in an M4 prior to using them in the M6 w/ 3x17670.

FM sold approximately 90 of these holders, and we have had two reports of instaflash that I am aware of from the other thread. I am not sure if that is statistically significant, but it is something to consider.
 
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UPDATE:
My LF HO-M4A instaflash on me.

AW 17670 protected batteries were fresh off the Pila 4-stage charger.
LF HO-M6R works fine.

Warning to all, LF HO-M4A could instaflash. Whoever said it works with this setup was either lucky or bluffing.
 
I have also tried the MN60 and MN61 in M6 with FM 3-17670 holder with no (poof) problems. I much prefer the MN60 because it appears whiter than the MN61 and I also noticed that I had to double pump the switch to get the MN61 to fire up.
 
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