Carclo P60 drop-in optics + beamshots. Quad XP-G2 vs 219 Reference tint comparisons.

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[Theron]

Forgive my ignorance, but the quad 219 plus optics used above drops into the Malkoff MD2 without issues, correct? I just got a few Malkoff's and I'd love one of these. If it does drop-in without issues, can someone please point me in the direction to get one.

Thanks!

 

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Note: Reference this diagram if over or under exposure is mentioned. usually by 1 or 2 stops. Also if your display or display card shows colors in the "thousands of colors" range you may see unnatural rainbow-like rings and color banding in the photos. Everything should appear smooth with "millions of colors".

For an idea of what's involved in correcting color and exposure of the images:

Original shot with the TX25C2 on the left, corrected version after color, exposure and white balance adjustments on the right. The original on the left was more color saturated compared to what's being observed so that had to be bumped down. Some green had to be taken out and the background exposure needed to be brought up. That and numerous other tweaks. It takes about 10-15 minutes per image if things aren't too bad.

What can't be adjusted is when a camera over exposes brighter hot spot areas in the center and consequently under exposes the outer edge of the spill beam. So in this case while everything is now very close tint wise and for the most part exposure wise, I'll note that the center of the hotspot is overexposed by about 2 stops. The outer edge is underexposed by about 1 stop.

Another example with the quad R4-5C

Original on the left. Corrected on the right. This one didn't have as big an issue with hotspots due to the wider flood but colors needed a big tweak. I'll note that it's over exposed around the center by about a half stop (barely worth mentioning), and underexposed at the edges by about 1 stop. So for the most part the corrected images in the thread are exceptionally close to what's being observed in person.

CREE's tint binning color chart.

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A compilation of shots from all galleries.

Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C], XP-G2 [R4-5B]

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XP-G2 [R5-1C] (unavailable), Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], XP-G2 [R5-3C] Malkoff M61WLL (unavailable), EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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XP-G2 [R5-1C] (unavailable), Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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Forgive my ignorance, but the quad 219 plus optics used above drops into the Malkoff MD2 without issues, correct? I just got a few Malkoff's and I'd love one of these. If it does drop-in without issues, can someone please point me in the direction to get one.

Thanks!

The Carclo optics are for quad LED dropins. See 1st post for lens picture.

 

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The Carclo optics are for quad LED dropins. See 1st post for lens picture.

I think the previous question may have been he did not know what head and drop in was being used.
is this optic sized for regular P60 head? 26.5

 

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I think the previous question may have been he did not know what head and drop in was being used.
is this optic sized for regular P60 head? 26.5

Ahhh understood. Yep P60 and 26.5 :thumbsup:

 

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Another set that better shows tint variations on "foliage".

As before:

1st - XP-G2 [R5-1C]
2st - Nichia 219 [SW45-B10]
3rd - XP-G2 [R4-5C]
4th - XP-G2 [R4-5B]
5th - Malkoff M61WLL
6th - XM-L2 U2 EagleTac TX25C2

Background outer edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Background outer edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Background outer edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Background outer edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Center overexposure by about 1 stop. Background spill underexposure by about 2 stops.

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Center overexposure by about 2 stops. Background outer edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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Got my artificial landscape plates I can sit here and tweak till perfection without the mosquitos or light pollution tainting the results or my laptop running out of juice.

 

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Added a series shot for all the original shoots. This really helps to distinguish the tint variations.

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all in one post, to be continued
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?364259&p=4280351&viewfull=1#post4280351

 

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This set is a comparison using the camera close up to an artificial landscape plate #1.

This time adding a Xenon camera flash control shot. All lights 4" from the target shining from the upper left corner to center.

1st - Xenon Camera Flash
2nd - XP-G2 [R5-1C]
3rd - Nichia 219 [SW45-B10]
4th - XP-G2 [R5-5C]
5th - XP-G2 [R4-5B]
6th - Malkoff M61WLL
7th - EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

Camera flash taken facing square with the target. Camera shadow due to close proximity.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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The Nichia 219 was the closest match to the Xenon control shot. :thumbsup: The olive tinted R4-5B is surprising me more and more as well. It looks great with woodsy like scenes.

 

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Putting a few links here, I've been asked a few times what a "Kerberos Quad" is.

It's a particular P60 dropin I get from a custom builder "Kenji" in Japan.

A review link here:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...ureFire-C2-Pics-and-commentary-Beamshots-soon

Kenji's original sales thread:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?314759

 

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This set is a comparison using the camera close up to an artificial landscape plate #2.

All lights 4" from the target shining from the upper left corner to center.

1st - Xenon Camera Flash
2nd - XP-G2 [R5-1C]
3rd - Nichia 219 [SW45-B10]
4th - XP-G2 [R4-5C]
5th - XP-G2 [R4-5B]
6th - Malkoff M61WLL
7th - EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

Camera flash taken facing square with the target. Camera shadow due to close proximity.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 1 stop.

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Edge underexposure by about 2 stops.

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XP-G2 [R5-1C], Nichia 219 [SW45-B10], XP-G2 [R4-5C]
XP-G2 [R4-5B], Malkoff M61WLL, EagleTac TX25C2 XM-L2 U2

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As expected the Nichia 219 was closest to the Xenon control shot even though the Xenon color rendering of the yellow grass puffs is less yellow. Keep in mind the camera flash (being attached to the camera) is facing square to the target instead of being off close to the upper left edge and angled downwards as the lights where. This is necessary to help bring out the shadows.