i looked at the website and the r2's are mentioned but not available ?
does any one know any more?
Dereelight DBS V3 XP-G R5 (no more R2?)
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i looked at the website and the r2's are mentioned but not available ?
does any one know any more?
heater
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The dereelight is not regulated for the cr123's? That means starts out bright, and slowly goes dim, or stays bright until the batts. poop out? Thanks for the info, trying to suck it up!
heater
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your right, didn't take the update ability into account.
jblackwood
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jblackwood
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I own three DBS's simply because I loved my first one so much. In fact, it was the first flashlight over $50 I got (so long ago now). Not my last for sure but aside from my DEFT, it's the only thrower I own. If you ask around here, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that many DBS owners didn't get another thrower class light after they got their DBS. Whether it's because they wanted to wait for the next best pill to make the most out of the upgradability or because it's just the best they've ever gotten, who knows? With me, I just couldn't see paying so much more money for another flashlight when a new pill may or may not be around the corner. There are lots of threads that say "buy it now otherwise you'll end up waiting for the next best thing forever," but I say why should you have to pay over $100 every time new LED tech comes out? Of course, that's just for the thrower class lights, in my case, since I buy P60 size hosts all the time and I missed the boat on the Javelin hosts . . . I was really eager to load a Malkoff into a body that can take AA batteries (I know it's not the first, but I like Dereelight).
Rant over. Phew!
imgadgetman
Newly Enlightened
I also have 3 Dereelights. My DBS R2 is perfect white and I can change it to MCE pill. I use my R2 with OP reflector to even out the beam and it doesn't sacrifice too much throw IMHO. I am waiting for the 3SM pill to come available as I only see 3SD listed. Jay, any word on the 3SM?
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FlashCrazy
Flashlight Enthusiast
The dereelight is not regulated for the cr123's? That means starts out bright, and slowly goes dim, or stays bright until the batts. poop out? Thanks for the info, trying to suck it up!
Yes, 2 x CR123's would be regulated. Any DBS or CL1H that can use two batteries will be regulated. The 1SM-2 can also use a single 18650 (or two CR123's/RCR123's), but won't be regulated when using just an 18650. With 2 x CR123's or RCR123's, it will be regulated. The 1S is designed for only a single 18650, and is fully regulated with a single 18650. Clear as mud, right?
FlashCrazy
Flashlight Enthusiast
The 3SM's are in stock, just not listed yet... will list them soon though.
To all: Please direct any other questions to my thread in the Dealer's Corner on CPF Marketplace.
heater
Newly Enlightened
Ordered my DBS R5 last night! Thanks for all the input all. Jay has been a good help so I got it from Flashlightconnection. Can't wait!
The service of flashlightconnection is as good as it gets. You will never regret being one of Jay's customers!
As far as XP-G R5 vs. XR-E R2 surface brightness difference, it would be cool to see if someone knows the specs of the two at the same drive current. I am sure that the XR-E R2 surface brightness would be greater than XP-G R2, but how much difference between the XP-G R5 vs. XR-E R2? Anyone, Anyone? Saabluster?
As far as XP-G R5 vs. XR-E R2 surface brightness difference, it would be cool to see if someone knows the specs of the two at the same drive current. I am sure that the XR-E R2 surface brightness would be greater than XP-G R2, but how much difference between the XP-G R5 vs. XR-E R2? Anyone, Anyone? Saabluster?
357mag1
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I have the warmer (Q2-5A) pill in the DBS normally. I did put the R2 pill in the DBS and it still didn't throw as well as the RRT-1 but came closer.
If you design a reflector for a new emitter, it'll be a great light if you know, what you're doing!
As for the throw however, I'm not sure that the XP-G will really be equal or better than the R2. I'm no specialist of those things, but I followed a few discussions about emitting surface and surface brightness. Someone claimed that the XP-G, even if brighter than the XP-E, can't throw better because the emitting surface is bigger and the surface brightness lower. As I said, I only repeat here what I read, I can't explain.
Though, I'm sure the new DBS is a better light overall Even if it lacks some throw, it'll have more than enough and the hotspot is bigger, it'll be a more universal light. on't get me wrong, I expect a thrower, but my Cl1H with the aspherical head throws also better than the DBS-R2, but its beam is awfull and there is no universality at all!
Is the emmitting surface larger? My XPGs are smaller than he XPEs, meaning a higher surface brightness, right?:shrug:
The XP-G has a larger die than the XP-E, not the other way around. The XP-E has a higher surface brightness than XP-G with all factors being equal. They have the same footprint size but the emitting die is not the same size.
The ad says the 18500 extension allows for much longer run times. Why go to this if the 18650 is longer?
I had both but got rid of the RRT-1. It definitely threw farther with a smaller hotspot but was too heavy & bulky for what I wanted to carry around. The light just felt very slippery & unbalanced (top-heavy), I just find the DBS more usable.
Just my thoughts.
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Yes, XR-E come in a package that make it look larger. The XR-E and XP-E use the same die IIRC but come in a different package size and form. The XR-E has that reflective ring around it making it need a bigger hole in the reflector than XP-E or XP-G.
The size, shape, and performance of the DBS are great and well balanced to boot. It's nice to hear from someone that had the RRT-1 as well for the comparison.
I got my XP-G pill and reflector today.
It looks like it throws pretty good. It is very foggy outside, hard to compare.
The hotspot is bigger and the spill is brighter than R2.
The beam is ringy, worse than R2 version.
Lots of rings around the hotspot.
It looks like it throws pretty good. It is very foggy outside, hard to compare.
The hotspot is bigger and the spill is brighter than R2.
The beam is ringy, worse than R2 version.
Lots of rings around the hotspot.
Hi all, I also have (had ) Dereelight DBS with the R2 emitter and I am planning to get the new one - XP-G R5 because something happened to my flashlight and it does not work anymore . Could somebody help me, how can I find out what is wrong with it? I mean - is it the pill or the switch button? I tried to connect the battery directly to the pill using wires and it did not work. I also measured the switch button resistance when it is switched on, and it was merely 4 Ohm, when it is switched off there is no electrical circuit at all, which I think is a perfectly right behavior. Anyway, is there a 100% sure method to check if the pill is damaged? Please help.
I want to get only the XP-G R5 pill + reflector but if the switch is damaged then I should buy a whole flashlight..
BTW, I just found some comparison between XR-E R2 and XP-G R5:
) Dereelight DBS with the R2 emitter and I am planning to get the new one - XP-G R5 because something happened to my flashlight and it does not work anymore . Could somebody help me, how can I find out what is wrong with it? I mean - is it the pill or the switch button? I tried to connect the battery directly to the pill using wires and it did not work. I also measured the switch button resistance when it is switched on, and it was merely 4 Ohm, when it is switched off there is no electrical circuit at all, which I think is a perfectly right behavior. Anyway, is there a 100% sure method to check if the pill is damaged? Please help.I want to get only the XP-G R5 pill + reflector but if the switch is damaged then I should buy a whole flashlight..
BTW, I just found some comparison between XR-E R2 and XP-G R5:
