Dereelight Q5 drop in?

[pbs357]

Just wondering why Dereelight isn't getting any atttention from the Q5 P60 drop-in crowd? The company has several models, including a few multi-level versions. Has anyone bought one from them, and been able to compare it to any of the others in the market?

 

[Sgt. LED]

I would buy one if I could use my Debit card from a regular website. I can't use paypal. Maybe someday they will operate like a more traditional business and I will buy one. I'd love to try out a 1 stage Q5 drop-in!

 

[IcantC]

Yes I have been reading and wondering the same. Perhaps someone has the 1 stage Q5 drop in?

 

[flash99dark]

pbs357...I ordered a Dereelight P60 type drop in mod a few days ago. It has shipped today from China...so it may take awhile [probably 10 days?]..I have never ordered from out of USA before, but no Dealers here are carrying the new
Q5 P60 drop ins from Dereelight yet.
It is a one stage and I plan to use a Surefire C2 and a Huntlight FT-01 as hosts.
I will post how this compares to my Fenix Q2 and both my Surefire Lux'..William

 

[WadeF]

I received some of the Dereelight 3-Stage Q5's and I have the newer 2-stage Q5 on the way which Dereelight says is a bit brighter than the 3-stage. I think the 2-stage is 1.2A on high while the 3-stage is 1A on high.

I'm charging up my 18650's right now to do some testing. I will take LUX readings with the CL1H using a smooth and OP reflector. I could take readings from my Malkoff M60 Q2 dropin for comparison. The 3-stages I got still have the noise issue, but I think the new 2-stage digital doens't have the noise issue, we'll see. I don't have a 1-stage on order at this time, but I'd imagine it would perform the same as the 2-stage digital on HIGH. There is also a 2-stage multi-power the allows the use of CR123's, RCR123's, as well as 18650's, but I hear it's not as powerful as the 2-stage and 3-stage digital pills.

 

[IcantC]

Wade and Flash, would be great to read your reviews and findings. Thanks!

 

[WadeF]

Alright, charged up my 18650's and took some readings. I took readings with two different LUX meters, the DX lux meter, and another lux meter I recently got, brand and model are "Tes 1332A". Still seems to give lower readings than some others I have seen. Seems you can't go by lux readings stated by different people as these meters vary, but they are useful for comparing various lights on the same meter. The following readings were taken at 1 meter, recording the max reading found in the hot spot:

Dereelight 3-stage Q5 SMO HIGH - DX 8,840LUX TES 9,300LUX
Dereelight 3-stage Q5 OP HIGH - DX 4,700 TES 6,450
Malkoff M60 OP Q2 Fresh 2xCR123 - DX 3,570 TES 4,780

As expected the Q5 has an edge over the Q2. Also the Dereelight CL1H with 3-stage had more spill than the Malkoff M60 in a SF G2 host, and the spill was brighter with the Dereelight:

Dereelight 3-stage OP Spill: DX 70 TES 120
Malkoff M60 OP Spill: DX 50 TES 80

I also took readings of Dereelight's 5-stage Q2 with OP:

Dereelight 5-stage Q2 OP: DX 3,540 TES 4,610
Dereeligh 5-stage Q2 OP Spill: DX 50 TES 90

For the spill I should have set the meter to a lower mode as it only read 5, 8, etc. So it could have been 55, 89, 92, etc.

As far as tint, the Dereelight was a little cooler than the Malkoff.


Here are beamshots of the Malkoff M60 Q2 OP and the Dereelight 3-stage Q5 OP HIGH. ISO 50, f2.8, WB Daylight.

Malkoff on left, Dereelight on right:

1/10th sec exp.


1/40th sec exp.


1/160th sec exp.


1/640th sec exp.

 

[pbs357]

Awesome review and beamshots! Thanks for sharing! Now, is the 2 stage supposed to be their brightest/hardest driven drop in? I admit after posting earlier today I couldn't resist so I ordered a one-stage drop in. Either way, looking forward to comparing it to my DX sku#1447's (of which, 2 are really bright, and the other 2 are a tiny bit less bright, but warmer tint - but what do you expect for $11US shipped?)! And for anyone else who has one to compare with another drop in, please chime in!

 

[WadeF]

Alan from Dereelight said the new 2-stage digital Q5 is a little brighter than the 3-stage digital it replaced. Both of which are supposedly brighter than the 2-stage multi-power. I will post the results I get with the 2-stage digital Q5 when I get it.

 

[pbs357]

Well, I got my 1 stage Q5 from Dereelight today. It's brighter than my DX sku #1447 Cree P4 drop-ins, but not "blow the doors off" brighter. I wonder if mine's a dud? Looking forward to comparisons between this one and the other Q5 drop-ins like the Bugout Gear model.

 

[pbs357]

Hey Wade,

Any comparisons to share?

 

[WadeF]

I got a new 2SD Q5 WC 1.2 pill for my DBS, but it's not reading as high on my LUX meter than a 3-stage Q5 WF pill I have. Now, this could be due to the 3-stage Q5 WF focusing better, and the 2SD Q5 WC 1.2 maybe putting out more lumens, but less focused. I need to do some testing in a light box.

 

[Ducati]

I would buy one if I could use my Debit card from a regular website. I can't use paypal. Maybe someday they will operate like a more traditional business and I will buy one. I'd love to try out a 1 stage Q5 drop-in!

I don't see why you can't use your debit card. As long as the debit card has a MasterCard or Visa logo, you're good to go...

 

[Sgt. LED]

Send me a link to the proper website please.

 

[Steve L]

Here you go: http://www.dereelight.com/index.htm Edit - Looks to be Paypal only

 

[dave43]

Well, I got my 1 stage Q5 from Dereelight today. It's brighter than my DX sku #1447 Cree P4 drop-ins, but not "blow the doors off" brighter. I wonder if mine's a dud? Looking forward to comparisons between this one and the other Q5 drop-ins like the Bugout Gear model.

PBS,

Is it worth it to get the Q5 Dereelight over the 1447? I have the 1447 on order and was thinking of getting thr Dereelight also but if there isn't too much of a difference then I would rather stick with 1447's which are a lot cheaper. Also, does the Q5 run longer? Do you know what the runtimes are on the 1447 and dereelight? Thanks.

 

[pbs357]

Dave,

To my eyes, the Dereelight is a bit brighter compared to my best 1447. I'd say the module was worth it to me, as I continue my quest for "brightest setup in 2xcr123 format." One word of note though, there are several Dereelight modules, and the single level module I have is rated for 1A current. From what I understand there is a multi-mode unit they sell that runs at 1.2A which would be even brighter.

Not sure about runtime, as I haven't run down either of these to the end yet.

 

[dave43]

Dave,

To my eyes, the Dereelight is a bit brighter compared to my best 1447. I'd say the module was worth it to me, as I continue my quest for "brightest setup in 2xcr123 format." One word of note though, there are several Dereelight modules, and the single level module I have is rated for 1A current. From what I understand there is a multi-mode unit they sell that runs at 1.2A which would be even brighter.

Not sure about runtime, as I haven't run down either of these to the end yet.

Any idea what lumens it puts out?

 

[WadeF]

Any idea what lumens it puts out?

THey are Q5's being driven around 1A, so they should be doing around 250 lumens at the emitter. As far as what's coming out the front of the flashlight, it depends on how efficient the reflector and lens are, but probably in the 180-200 lumen range.

 

[dave43]

THey are Q5's being driven around 1A, so they should be doing around 250 lumens at the emitter. As far as what's coming out the front of the flashlight, it depends on how efficient the reflector and lens are, but probably in the 180-200 lumen range.

Thanks Wade,

I'd be running them in a G2 or 6P with CR123's. Any general idea of runtime?