Difference between KD Mag Reflectors?

[Agent WD-40]

What is the difference between the different OP reflectors that kaidomain.com sells? I'm looking for a camless OP reflector to use with a Malkoff P7 drop in and they seem to have two versions. Anybody know the difference?

KD M*g OP reflector V3.1 15mm Opening SKU: S006166
http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=5632


M*g MOP Cam/Camless Aluminum Reflector 52mm/15mm SKU: S004023
http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=1739

 

[Agent WD-40]

Bump... Anybody know?

I tried emailing KD but haven't received a response...

 

[Norm]

What is the difference between the different OP reflectors that kaidomain.com sells? I'm looking for a camless OP reflector to use with a Malkoff P7 drop in and they seem to have two versions. Anybody know the difference?

KD M*g OP reflector V3.1 15mm Opening SKU: S006166
http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=5632


M*g MOP Cam/Camless Aluminum Reflector 52mm/15mm SKU: S004023
http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=1739

SKU: S006166 has the added description.

The improvements are:

- Revised reflective curve for optimized throw and spill
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- Superior MOP finish
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- Improved and individual sealed packaging
- Removeable cam
- Fits M*g C or D.


So it may be an improved SKU: S004023 :shrug:
My guess.


Norm
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[Justin Case]

Comparing the photos of the two reflectors, it looks like 6166 has a slightly different outer shell shape vs 4023.

I do know that 6166 works well in four of my Mags -- a non-"D" serial numbered 3D Mag, a "D" serial numbered 3D Mag, a "C" serial numbered 2C Mag, and a non-"C" serial numbered 4C Mag. For the first Mag, the KD OP reflector fits fine (simple drop-in) and smooths out the beam of the incandescent bulb. For the last three Mags, the KD OP reflector is also a drop-in fit with sufficient reflector hole clearance for P4s and P7s mounted on 4sevens heat sinks. When focused, the OP beam is very smooth. You do sacrifice throw vs the smooth Mag reflector. For a P4 LED, I think that the stock Mag reflector is fine. Even with the large, multi-die P7, the Mag reflector gives a reasonably nice beam once focused.

Since the best beam quality with the KD OP reflector occurs with the Mag head not screwed all the way down, it isn't clear to me how much, if any, the metal KD reflector participates in heat sinking. So, if you want the KD reflector for that purpose, in addition to improving the beam, you may not get any additional heat sinking.

The cam is removable (just unscrew it).

 

[rickcarpenter]

Since the best beam quality with the KD OP reflector occurs with the Mag head not screwed all the way down, it isn't clear to me how much, if any, the metal KD reflector participates in heat sinking. So, if you want the KD reflector for that purpose, in addition to improving the beam, you may not get any additional heat sinking.

The cam is removable (just unscrew it).

What about radiant heat transfer to a cammed metal reflector plus conductive via the very small contact with the cam pin, wouldn't that help a little? I'm considering hybrid cammed for my 3D Mag w/Mag's drop-in led.

Sometimes the numbers on the think-so meter make up for real numbers...

 

[Justin Case]

The OP asked about a Malkoff P7 drop-in which requires removal of the cam. Thus, there is no radiant heat transfer to any cam and no thermal conduction via contact with any cam pin.