Been out of the loop for a while. I'm wondering if there are any newer 1xAA lights that can equal the good ol' Infinity in terms of RUNTIME. Although the Infinity was not very bright, the runtime of ~100 hrs of usable light with just 1 alkaline primary still makes it (for me) the ultimate camping/hiking light.
Does the CMG/Gerber Infinity Ultra 1xAA have a successor?
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Flying Turtle
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You can still get the Gerber Infinity Ultra. Not the same design as the old CMG's, but still a long runner. Peak may make a AA light that's closer to the old Infinity in design.
Geoff
Geoff
PhantomPhoton
Flashlight Enthusiast
Other than the aforementioned peak... no.
Marduke
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If 1xAA and runtime are your only requirements, there are a LOT of current multimode lights which fit the bill.
sol-leks
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Unfortunately a multi-mode light is not really a successor in any way to the GUI. The closest thing is the E01 or maybe the EZAA from nitecore. However, the E01 uses AAA not AA's and the EZAA is a fairly expensive light where as the GUI was always quite reasonable. Hopefully someday quark or fenix will come out with something that is simply an E01 that uses AA's (and maybe a nicer tint too ;-) )
I think its kinda funny that fenix and quark are coming out with lights like the LD05 and the preon, which while admittedly awesome looking lights, seem to fill much smaller niche's than a light like this would. As many, many other people have said. If someone made this exact light and priced it right, almost all of us would buy once instantly, plus a couple for friends and family.
I think its kinda funny that fenix and quark are coming out with lights like the LD05 and the preon, which while admittedly awesome looking lights, seem to fill much smaller niche's than a light like this would. As many, many other people have said. If someone made this exact light and priced it right, almost all of us would buy once instantly, plus a couple for friends and family.
Well said.
Friends and family are "meh" when it comes to my complex lights, on and off is enough for them. They don't care about tint, UI, runtimes, they just want light.
My kids have a nice little collection of lights going and I've got a couple Gerbers in my CFR cart for one of their Christmas presents. I could get much brighter lights for the money but the runtime, relatively non-blinding output, and lack of complexity make these the right choice.
An EZAA with a single mode - runtime about 10 hrs - and a price point of $20 would get me buying 4 or 5 right away.
Don't be fooled by the runtimes of low modes in multimode lights, I'm sure these are theoretical guesstimates or are continuous runtimes. 50 hours of runtime is useless if you have to leave the light on in order for it to stay on. This is referring to the iTP EOS, many thought it's runtime on low makes it a better emergency light than the Fenix E01, the reality is the Fenix despite of it's lower runtime rating can run on AAA's that won't even work on the iTP and the E01 is still brighter on that low cell than the iTP on low with a fresh cell.
There were some rumors a few months ago that the Gerber Infinity has upgraded it's LED, possibly to a Nichia DS or GS, but I can't confirm. There's also the Peak Killimajaro which uses 1 Cree 5mm and 1AA, you may be able to get one with a Nichia GS, call Peak if you're interested.
There were some rumors a few months ago that the Gerber Infinity has upgraded it's LED, possibly to a Nichia DS or GS, but I can't confirm. There's also the Peak Killimajaro which uses 1 Cree 5mm and 1AA, you may be able to get one with a Nichia GS, call Peak if you're interested.
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Drewfus2101
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I just picked up an Infinity Ultra-M from Amazon a few weeks ago. The beam looks exactly like my Fenix E01, which uses a Nichia GS. They are identical in color, shape, and output.
So I think that it is safe to say Gerber is using a Nichia GS led now.
So I think that it is safe to say Gerber is using a Nichia GS led now.
Thanks for the info guys. I don't know enough about the Nichia GS (if that's what the new model is using) to know how it would affect runtime. Since I already have 2 of the older CMGs and 3 of the older Gerbers, I don't think I'll spend the $ on the new model. (Unless someone does a runtime chart on the new model?) As I said, the older model wasn't very bright and it had that bluish tint, but for decent output and ~75-100hrs runtime, I'll take it any day for a camping/hiking/emergency light. Besides, the darker it is, the less output you really need to see what you're doing.
Maybe we'll never see another light like the old Ultra, what with multiple modes being all the rage now and runtime taking a backseat to output. *sigh* I'll definitely be taking care of the ones I have! Thanks again
Maybe we'll never see another light like the old Ultra, what with multiple modes being all the rage now and runtime taking a backseat to output. *sigh* I'll definitely be taking care of the ones I have! Thanks again
I don't think the Nichia GS LED in the newer GIUs would give the flashlight more runtime, I think it would just give more light output. I could be mistaken though. But I wonder if the newer GIUs have the same long runtime that the older GIUs or CMGs have.
Can anyone confirm if the newer GIUs have similar runtime to the older GIUs or CMGs?
It depends on the circuit. A more efficient led (DS vs CS) would give more light at a given drive level.And the reverse works too, meaning that the DS would need a only a lower drive level to Sustain 10 lumens (for example) than a CS would.
I think a mass produced AA long running light in the form of an E01 or similar is LONG overdue....
Crenshaw
TONY M
Flashlight Enthusiast
I agree with this and would be very interested in a similar light to the E01 that ran off AAs. I think the circuit in the E01 is excellent for this kind of light and would be great for AA alkalines, providing they don't leak in it.
It would depend on whether or not the Vf of the GS was the same as the LED in the previous generation. However here's a different way to look at it if the Vf is the same, at the point when you would find the old Nichia CS version unuseable and in need of a new battery, the GS version will be twice as bright, thus having longer useful runtime.
GaryF
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The original Infinity would run 30-40 hours (41 hours was the manufacturer claim) on an aa alkaline, with some reports that it would run 100 hours on an L91 lithium primary. The Infinity Ultra was more like 20 hours
The CMG Infinity's were my original white LED lights, and I still have several around in my emergency kits because of the long runtime they offer. With the move to ever brighter lights, runtime often got left behind, but there are quite a few multilevel lights available that offer greater efficiency on low than those original Infinity's. A couple of examples:
Zebralight H50 - Runs 3.5 days on low (manufacturers specs), and that low is brighter than the regular Infinity, but not quite as bright as the Ultra. I haven't personally tested the runtime on low, but the medium was spot on, so I have no reason to doubt it.
4Sevens Quark AA - Per this test, Quark AA Runtime , it runs over 50 hours on low, and over 300 hours on moon mode, on a 2000mAh rechargeable battery. At such low drain levels the alkaline runtime should be significantly longer. Moon mode on this light is dimmer than the regular Infinity, and low is a little brighter than the Infinity Ultra.
Now I'm not trying to say that these lights are successors to the Infinity, but to the original question about runtime, yes, some of the current single AA lights exceed the original Infinity and Infinity Ultra in terms of runtime while producing comparable light output.
The CMG Infinity's were my original white LED lights, and I still have several around in my emergency kits because of the long runtime they offer. With the move to ever brighter lights, runtime often got left behind, but there are quite a few multilevel lights available that offer greater efficiency on low than those original Infinity's. A couple of examples:
Zebralight H50 - Runs 3.5 days on low (manufacturers specs), and that low is brighter than the regular Infinity, but not quite as bright as the Ultra. I haven't personally tested the runtime on low, but the medium was spot on, so I have no reason to doubt it.
4Sevens Quark AA - Per this test, Quark AA Runtime , it runs over 50 hours on low, and over 300 hours on moon mode, on a 2000mAh rechargeable battery. At such low drain levels the alkaline runtime should be significantly longer. Moon mode on this light is dimmer than the regular Infinity, and low is a little brighter than the Infinity Ultra.
Now I'm not trying to say that these lights are successors to the Infinity, but to the original question about runtime, yes, some of the current single AA lights exceed the original Infinity and Infinity Ultra in terms of runtime while producing comparable light output.
Indeed, the infinity hurts my eyes late at night where the Quark is just right....
but nothing beats the glow mode of the safelight...
Crenshaw
My runtime tests continue on that mode...
NutSAK
Flashlight Enthusiast
True, but the Gerber IU is brighter than the CMG IU and runs for around 40 hours. Or, at least the Gerbers I have with the Nichia CS do.
The Gerber IU is a vampire. I'm not sure that it needs a "successor".
greenlight
Flashlight Enthusiast
The Gerber Firecracker for 15-20$ is a great light. It only takes one AA, and it is my camping flashlight.
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