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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by McGizmo:
Not if you pack them well with steel wool
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Don't forget to put a handful of aluminum, caesium, and magnesium shavings in the baggie along with the SOS pads.
I would honestly NOT feel comfortable packing around a box or baggie of loose batteries of any kind, unless I completely taped over one end (the flat end would be easiest) of every cell that goes in there, or lined them up side-by-side (positive end of every battery facing the same direction) and fastened them together so they stay that way.
For water entry concerns, I'd also go through the trouble of double- or triple-bagging them if there is any threat of a single bag becoming torn or punctured while in transport.
Buy some glad or zip-lock freezer bags (not the kind with the slider; buy the kind you seal by hand!); they're thicker than ordinary baggies. Might not even need to double them up if you use a thick bag like that.
Not if you pack them well with steel wool
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Don't forget to put a handful of aluminum, caesium, and magnesium shavings in the baggie along with the SOS pads.
I would honestly NOT feel comfortable packing around a box or baggie of loose batteries of any kind, unless I completely taped over one end (the flat end would be easiest) of every cell that goes in there, or lined them up side-by-side (positive end of every battery facing the same direction) and fastened them together so they stay that way.
For water entry concerns, I'd also go through the trouble of double- or triple-bagging them if there is any threat of a single bag becoming torn or punctured while in transport.
Buy some glad or zip-lock freezer bags (not the kind with the slider; buy the kind you seal by hand!); they're thicker than ordinary baggies. Might not even need to double them up if you use a thick bag like that.
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Be especially careful with the lithiums as they can explosively combust in water
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I feel a lot better now that I have my Surefire SC1 spares carrier 6x123 cells and one lamp assembly.
I use Panasonic AAs and AAAs and they come over-wrapped in pairs. I put those in mini-ziploc bags.
I have been nervous about carrying 123s which was why I forked over $14 for the carrier.
Cheers,
Richard
I use Panasonic AAs and AAAs and they come over-wrapped in pairs. I put those in mini-ziploc bags.
I have been nervous about carrying 123s which was why I forked over $14 for the carrier.
Cheers,
Richard
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I wouldn't carry them loose, without taking some of the precautions mentioned above.
Here's something funny that happened to me quite recently, that sortof applies (albeit, with 9 volt batteries, which are probably more dangerous):
I was doing the annual* battery changes of the smoke detectors in the house -- there are 9 of the miserable things, and we have high ceilings. After changing each one, I was carefully taking each leftover battery back to kitchen before doing the next one. But once I started doing the upstairs ones, I got impatiient, and just shoved a leftover battery in my pocket, and started on the next one.
Naturally, this one choose to be difficult; instead of having the smoke detector disconnect from the mounting, the mounting itself came loose from the ceiling. So I replace the battery, climb back up on the ladder and start screwing the mount back in, when suddenly I start to feel a sharp pain in my leg, where I'm leaning against the ladder. After a few seconds, it gets even more painful, and I stick my hand into my pocket absent mindedly to see what's going. Ouch! Ouch! I frantically scramble down the ladder (in the back of my mind, I'm thinking the 2 "dead" batteries are leaking acid or something), and once I'm down try to get them out of my pocket (ouch! ouch!).
Eventually I evert the pocket and the two "dead" batteries fall onto the carpet and skitter under a bed, where I have to fish them out.
Turns out the almost dead 9 volt batteries shorted out in my pocket, and darn near burned their way out. It took them quite awhile to cool down again, too. I saved the other 7 batteries for use in my PAL lights, but those two I threw away...
*I don't really change the batteries once a year; the detectors are primarily powered by the power mains, and the batteries are just a backup. As soon as the battery gets low, the detector starts chirping (very loudly), so I change all of them as soon as the first one starts to chirp. Which indicates that most of the batteries should have been fairly depleted.
BTW, you don't want to know what it sounded like when a water leak shorted out one of the smoke detectors -- all 9 of them were shrieking like unholy terrors [they're wired together], there was no way to figure which one was having a problem, and it happened in the middle of the night. There were 5 of them within twenty feet of where I sleep -- gads, I hate those things...
Here's something funny that happened to me quite recently, that sortof applies (albeit, with 9 volt batteries, which are probably more dangerous):
I was doing the annual* battery changes of the smoke detectors in the house -- there are 9 of the miserable things, and we have high ceilings. After changing each one, I was carefully taking each leftover battery back to kitchen before doing the next one. But once I started doing the upstairs ones, I got impatiient, and just shoved a leftover battery in my pocket, and started on the next one.
Naturally, this one choose to be difficult; instead of having the smoke detector disconnect from the mounting, the mounting itself came loose from the ceiling. So I replace the battery, climb back up on the ladder and start screwing the mount back in, when suddenly I start to feel a sharp pain in my leg, where I'm leaning against the ladder. After a few seconds, it gets even more painful, and I stick my hand into my pocket absent mindedly to see what's going. Ouch! Ouch! I frantically scramble down the ladder (in the back of my mind, I'm thinking the 2 "dead" batteries are leaking acid or something), and once I'm down try to get them out of my pocket (ouch! ouch!).
Eventually I evert the pocket and the two "dead" batteries fall onto the carpet and skitter under a bed, where I have to fish them out.
Turns out the almost dead 9 volt batteries shorted out in my pocket, and darn near burned their way out. It took them quite awhile to cool down again, too. I saved the other 7 batteries for use in my PAL lights, but those two I threw away...
*I don't really change the batteries once a year; the detectors are primarily powered by the power mains, and the batteries are just a backup. As soon as the battery gets low, the detector starts chirping (very loudly), so I change all of them as soon as the first one starts to chirp. Which indicates that most of the batteries should have been fairly depleted.
BTW, you don't want to know what it sounded like when a water leak shorted out one of the smoke detectors -- all 9 of them were shrieking like unholy terrors [they're wired together], there was no way to figure which one was having a problem, and it happened in the middle of the night. There were 5 of them within twenty feet of where I sleep -- gads, I hate those things...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eccentrich:
I don't really change the batteries once a year; the detectors are primarily powered by the power mains, and the batteries are just a backup. As soon as the battery gets low, the detector starts chirping (very loudly), so I change all of them as soon as the first one starts to chirp. Which indicates that most of the batteries should have been fairly depleted.
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I've got the same situation here. This place was all new construction, and the first winter I was here I kept hearing this occasional chirp late at night. I finally tracked it down to the smoke detector in the front hall by the front door. My thermostat was set lower in the middle of the night, and that particular area got a little cooler than the rest of the house. When the temperature dropped late at night the battery would drop below the threshold and trigger a chirp. After climbing up there and removing the battery I noticed the contractor had installed cheap imported generic carbon-zinc batteries. I pulled them out of all of them and replaced them with fresh alkalines. The one in my bedroom, was high above the bed on the vaulted ceiling. I had to move the bed in order to get a ladder to it. That one I replaced with a lithium. I shouldn't have to change it for another ten years, unless we have some extended power outages.
I don't really change the batteries once a year; the detectors are primarily powered by the power mains, and the batteries are just a backup. As soon as the battery gets low, the detector starts chirping (very loudly), so I change all of them as soon as the first one starts to chirp. Which indicates that most of the batteries should have been fairly depleted.
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I've got the same situation here. This place was all new construction, and the first winter I was here I kept hearing this occasional chirp late at night. I finally tracked it down to the smoke detector in the front hall by the front door. My thermostat was set lower in the middle of the night, and that particular area got a little cooler than the rest of the house. When the temperature dropped late at night the battery would drop below the threshold and trigger a chirp. After climbing up there and removing the battery I noticed the contractor had installed cheap imported generic carbon-zinc batteries. I pulled them out of all of them and replaced them with fresh alkalines. The one in my bedroom, was high above the bed on the vaulted ceiling. I had to move the bed in order to get a ladder to it. That one I replaced with a lithium. I shouldn't have to change it for another ten years, unless we have some extended power outages.
You should be fine. The only time I've ever had a problem with is having loose batteries that didn't have the outter covering since they were taken apart from a larger pack.
To be on the extra safe side I'd probalby just cover all the + or - sides of each battery with a strip of electrical tape.
Todd
To be on the extra safe side I'd probalby just cover all the + or - sides of each battery with a strip of electrical tape.
Todd
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my cat meows if even the toast starts to burn...good kitty.
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Empath: Yes, they nearly always start chirping in the middle of the night, after the temperature has gone down. Before we developed the current system, it used to be extremely irritating, because even the chirps are hard to locate.
If you think the one over the bed is annoying, I have one that's over a staircase, right in the middle of a bend. Can't reach it without a ladder, can't easily put a ladder there because there aren't two places to put the ladder's legs. I always end up putting a big box full of books on one step, and precariously balance the ladder on that and another step. And then I can only barely reach the smoke detector.
That silly safety device is going to kill me one of these days...
If you think the one over the bed is annoying, I have one that's over a staircase, right in the middle of a bend. Can't reach it without a ladder, can't easily put a ladder there because there aren't two places to put the ladder's legs. I always end up putting a big box full of books on one step, and precariously balance the ladder on that and another step. And then I can only barely reach the smoke detector.
That silly safety device is going to kill me one of these days...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ted the Led:
my cat meows if even the toast starts to burn...good kitty.
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Does it meow only when it smells something burning, or do you get a lot of false alarms?
my cat meows if even the toast starts to burn...good kitty.
Does it meow only when it smells something burning, or do you get a lot of false alarms?
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If you think the one over the bed is annoying, I have one that's over a staircase, right in the middle of a bend. Can't reach it without a ladder, can't easily put a ladder there because there aren't two places to put the ladder's legs. I always end up putting a big box full of books on one step, and precariously balance the ladder on that and another step. And then I can only barely reach the smoke detector.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That one should get a lithium.
At first I thought this thread needed to be in the batteries forum, then quickly decided the Café was the place for it. It's not about flashlights. You'll find it here.
If you think the one over the bed is annoying, I have one that's over a staircase, right in the middle of a bend. Can't reach it without a ladder, can't easily put a ladder there because there aren't two places to put the ladder's legs. I always end up putting a big box full of books on one step, and precariously balance the ladder on that and another step. And then I can only barely reach the smoke detector.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That one should get a lithium.
At first I thought this thread needed to be in the batteries forum, then quickly decided the Café was the place for it. It's not about flashlights. You'll find it here.
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