Genius

[tonyb]

Society cannot contribute anything to the breeding and growing of ingenious men. A creative genius cannot be trained. There are no schools for creativeness. A genius is precisely a man who defies all schools and rules, who deviates from the traditional roads of routine and opens up new paths through land inaccessible before. A genius is always a teacher, never a pupil; he is always self-made.
-- Ludwig von Mises

I thought some of you out there might appreciate this.
Tony.

 

[Wylie]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif Wouldn't a genius be open to learning as a teacher and in that sense be a form of a perpetual pupil of all that surrounds them?
Sorry Ludwig/Tony I tend to question a lot of things. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif

 

[McGizmo]

Wylie,

Good point. Unless someone is born with knowledge, it must be acquired somehow. I think the point is inovation as apposed to replication or simple permutation.

IMHO, teaching and learning are but two sides of the same coin; having and using the coin is key. Perhaps self-taught is an example?

Well OK then, back under the rock I go. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[CM]

A genius must by necessity, learn by adaptation. If one cannot adapt, one is unable further his knowledge. As Don said, knowledge must be acquired somehow. A genius must be able to learn as well as teach. And so I shall, too, go back under MY rock /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

CM

 

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Maybe the genius is always a teacher by BEING a pupil. I blew up the rock (with a half-pound of C4* ) that a few unfriendlies TRIED to make me crawl under about 35 years ago./ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

*Cheese wiz Formula 4)

 

[McGizmo]

KT,

After the C4 went, did you hear the sound of one hand clapping? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif .......

I believe a genius practices ingenuity rather than the ryhthm method. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif Now where's my rock again....

 

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Good thing that I'm reading this. Haven't been able to hear much after that event. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Want me to bring some C4 to your rock? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[McGizmo]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Well, Uh, I think my rock is just fine as is, but thanks! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Uh, this thread is titled genius but I guess a rock isn't too far off topic, right? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif

In the pursuit of wisdom, there comes a point where current knowledge is abandoned. In the pursuit of knowledge, there comes a point where current wisdom is abandoned. Finally, If I knew what I was talking about, I would listen instead.

 

[Kiessling]

The initial statement is just plain false.
But inspiring for a good thread /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
A genius may be a simpleton.
bernhard

 

[SilverFox]

I don't know about you people and your rocks...

To me,

Genius is simply putting together bits and pieces in a way that it has not been conceived of before,

Knowledge comes from gathering the bits and pieces,

and Wisdom comes from surviving your mistakes. If you make a mistake, survive it, and do not repeat it, you have gained wisdom.

Tom

 

[Wylie]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif I find bait for fishing under rocks sometimes but crawling under one is no option for me. I'm still trying to find a place in the closet for my old rock but blasting sounds like a great option.
Thanks guys I now have a big smile on my face from reading these posts.
ROCK /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/xyxgun.gif

Keep it real bright, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Wylie

 

[tonyb]

When they asked Michelangelo Buonarroti how he conceived his great marble sculpture David he replied, "I only chipped away the outside to reveal what was already there".

 

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Wylie,

I got a little goofy with this thread. Looking at all the posts, it made me smile as well. Thanks for that, everyone. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[gadget_lover]

Personally, I believe that innovation can be taught, and that it does not rely on genius. In many cases, it simply requires that one be taught to consider unconventional solutions.

Daniel

 

[Aten_Imago]

"innovation can be taught-In many cases, it simply requires that one be taught to consider unconventional solutions"
Recognising the unconventional opportunity towards a solution cannot be taught if an invention or discovery is truly ingenious. Ingenuity presented as a flash is nearly mystical, as one is pondering a problem and some invisible forces marshall ones energies, attention and knowledge together- seemingly automatically when SUDDENLY the solution appears in this flash, as though presented by some invisible hand, rising from the waters of an enchanted lake- waiting for you, the medium to reach out and grasp it and then present it to the world.

 

[tonyb]

God gave man imagination.

 

[B@rt]

 

[iddibhai]

how come this thread insn't in cafe?

 

[B@rt]

Good question Iddum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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[flashfan]

Interesting topic. Regrettably, I can't contribute anything to it from my dark hole. I never emerge...why do you think I'm so partial to flashlights?!?