Got some Surefire DEF's

[Chehalis]

Hmmmm, so the official designation for these is DEF3 A, B and C after all.

 

[nc987]

To me the most exciting information gained from this thread is that Surefire seems to have found a way to control the tint on there lux v's. Hopefully this will in someway result in a future decrease of the bitching people around here tend to do about the slight tint variations present in the lux v's.

 

[Chehalis]

Since they halted R&D on incandescents quite a while ago I think it's more about improving the color rendition of LEDs and offering more choices for different applications. I think we may see color temperature as an option in the future.

 

[Size15's]

Hmmmm, so the official designation for these is DEF3 A, B and C after all.

Don't believe that based on the manual it was shipped with. The Kromas have been shipping out with U2 manuals. There was not time nor inclination to customise the manual for this special run of 200 lights.


As for why so many of these were purchased by Asian Dealers... As is proven time and time again when it comes to putting up the readies for the coolest toys the Asians are usually quickest off the blocks. When you're willing to pay rather than mess around for a deal money shouts the loudest.

That's my impression at least.

Al

 

[Mark2]

As for why so many of these were purchased by Asian Dealers... As is proven time and time again when it comes to putting up the readies for the coolest toys the Asians are usually quickest off the blocks. When you're willing to pay rather than mess around for a deal money shouts the loudest.

Or maybe PK just happens to have many friends in that part of the world

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

Hmmmm, so the official designation for these is DEF3 A, B and C after all.

Here is some Vapor remover for ya....

 

[seattlite]

Don't believe that based on the manual it was shipped with. The Kromas have been shipping out with U2 manuals. There was not time nor inclination to customise the manual for this special run of 200 lights.


As for why so many of these were purchased by Asian Dealers... As is proven time and time again when it comes to putting up the readies for the coolest toys the Asians are usually quickest off the blocks. When you're willing to pay rather than mess around for a deal money shouts the loudest.

That's my impression at least.

Al

So....Will Surefire Lifetime Warranty apply to this light. I have gotten replies from 2 seperate Asian Surefire Dealers that supply the PKEF lights and both say that the Surefire Lifetime Warranty does not apply. Can anyone confirm.

Thanks,
Richard

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

BEAMSHOTS!​

My U2 and my L4 are brighter than all my X-binned lights. Heres a comparison of how the PKEF stacks up.....

My L4 is WO/XO tinted, you can see in this pic how warm the 5K is, its definatley in the V1 ball park! :rock:

 

[EricMack]

Saweeet pics, homey! :laughing: So glad you and WP are around to take such great shots, I sure can't. Did you get a pair? One for each side of the big bad Dixon?!

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

Saweeet pics, homey! :laughing: So glad you and WP are around to take such great shots, I sure can't. Did you get a pair? One for each side of the big bad Dixon?!

The Dixon has headlights, when ever i get time, I'm thinking about replacing them w/ HID's. :rock:

 

[WAVE_PARTICLE]

..... So glad you and WP are around to take such great shots, I sure can't.....

Yeah... first I need one of these in my hands in order to take some pics....

Outstanding photos, PSM!!!!! :bow:

Awesome beamshots!!! Puts this light into perspective!

This light takes a little bit of the thunder out of the coming release of the Kroma/Kroma Mil-spec....

Granted, this is a totally different light....

:thumbsup: WP

 

[EricMack]

The Dixon has headlights, when ever i get time, I'm thinking about replacing them w/ HID's. :rock:

Cool idea, but wouldn't shipping the Dix to Boston cost a little much, even for you? :lolsign:

 

[cheapo]

nice beamshots... I wonder how much range that thing has.... if you have extra time, maybe we could get some long range beamshots at far away trees.

-david

 

[Size15's]

So....Will Surefire Lifetime Warranty apply to this light. I have gotten replies from 2 seperate Asian Surefire Dealers that supply the PKEF lights and both say that the Surefire Lifetime Warranty does not apply. Can anyone confirm.

Thanks,
Richard

I understand that SureFire's Warranty does not apply to the PKEF's because they are experimental (hence the name) and SureFire does not have any stock or components to repair them should they break. This likely includes the two-stage TailCap unless it becomes a production component in the future. They are a chance to own a part of SureFire's R&D process.

 

[MorpheusT1]

Nice Beamshots PSM!



Makes me want one of these Baad!



Benny

 

[seattlite]

I understand that SureFire's Warranty does not apply to the PKEF's because they are experimental (hence the name) and SureFire does not have any stock or components to repair them should they break. This likely includes the two-stage TailCap unless it becomes a production component in the future. They are a chance to own a part of SureFire's R&D process.

I just got off the phone with a SF Tech Support Rep, and I asked him about these PKEF lights and if SF will warranty them. I re-iterated that these are PK EXPERIMENTAL lights and say so on the brown box packaging, and he stated that if it came from SF that SF will service it. He stated that it might take longer to service since SF might have to "fabricate a component" that it doesn't stock or have, but SF will service the light. I'm uncertain whether what was said was just the SF Tech Support's opinion or actual SF policy.

So, if anyone were to purchase these lights, you should know that SF **might not** service these lights.

Richard

 

[Size15's]

If it can not repaired it can not be replaced. I understand that this is the difference from standard SureFire products.

 

[Chehalis]

Lots more beamshots here from our friend curse.

 

[Kiessling]

Thanx everyone for the pics and work !!!
Seems to be one hell of a light there!!

 

[PoliceScannerMan]

OUTDOOR RAINY BEAMSHOTS!!! :rock:

All of these were taken with the flashlight in its brightest setting. I'm no photographer, but you get a general idea for brightness. The first pics are about from 60-70 feet out. The second pics are about 190-200 feet to the green shed.