How do these compare? Nikon vs Casio

[somename]

Looking for a somewhat multi-purpose camera.

Important features being:
It takes multiple pic when the buttons pressed so that the perfect pic can be selected during action shots.

Huge zoom for capturing close up pictures of a person walking across a stage 100 yards away. If the zoom makes the images grainy, then its worthless.

Video with audio at 30fps min. Higher frame rates for slow motion playback are a plus.

I have a 4 MO son and sometimes he's looking at you one moment and something else the next. I need a camera that can capture the images quickly and be ready for the next shutter button press and allow me to view the images later.

Are there any camera out there that can fit these needs. My last camera was a Canon Power shot A80 and last I checked the LCD won't display images cleary anymore.

Prices wise something $500-600 or cheaper.

Been looking at the Casio Exilim EX-FH25 and the Nikon D3000. Anyone know about these two?

It seems like the Casio has more features, newer CMOS technology and the 20x optical zoom lens but it can not have lenses added.
So I'm not sure if a 20x zoom is better than the Nikon option of 200mm?

Thanks for your help!!

 

[somename]

opps.. just realized I posted this twice. Can someone delete the other post please?

 

[Erich1B]

Looking for a somewhat multi-purpose camera.

Important features being:
It takes multiple pic when the buttons pressed so that the perfect pic can be selected during action shots.

Huge zoom for capturing close up pictures of a person walking across a stage 100 yards away. If the zoom makes the images grainy, then its worthless.

Video with audio at 30fps min. Higher frame rates for slow motion playback are a plus.

I have a 4 MO son and sometimes he's looking at you one moment and something else the next. I need a camera that can capture the images quickly and be ready for the next shutter button press and allow me to view the images later.

Are there any camera out there that can fit these needs. My last camera was a Canon Power shot A80 and last I checked the LCD won't display images cleary anymore.

Prices wise something $500-600 or cheaper.

Been looking at the Casio Exilim EX-FH25 and the Nikon D3000. Anyone know about these two?

It seems like the Casio has more features, newer CMOS technology and the 20x optical zoom lens but it can not have lenses added.
So I'm not sure if a 20x zoom is better than the Nikon option of 200mm?

Thanks for your help!!

FWIW, there are pro's and cons's for each camera. The Casio is smaller and more portable than the Nikon. It would cover a wide range of focal lengths and with the Nikon that would require several lenses which would bring you well above your price range of $500 to $600.

Regarding the sensor. The sensor size of the Casio is 1/2.3" while the DX sensor of the Nikon is 23.6 by 15.8mm. The sensor of the Nikon is significantly larger that the sensor of the Casio - see link for comparison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format

Both camers have approximately 10 million megapixels. When you cram 10 million megapixels on to a sensor the size of the Casio, they have to be made smaller in order to fit. That can create problems with noise and distortion. When you have the same number of megapixels on a sensor like the one in the Nikon, they can be made larger and therefore gather more light which leads to better dynamic range and less noise. See link: http://www.suite101.com/content/digital-camera-sensor-size-a202402

It just depends upon what you want in a camera.

I hope this was remotely helpful..................Erich

 

[somename]

FWIW, there are pro's and cons's for each camera. The Casio is smaller and more portable than the Nikon. It would cover a wide range of focal lengths and with the Nikon that would require several lenses which would bring you well above your price range of $500 to $600.

Regarding the sensor. The sensor size of the Casio is 1/2.3" while the DX sensor of the Nikon is 23.6 by 15.8mm. The sensor of the Nikon is significantly larger that the sensor of the Casio - see link for comparison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format

Both camers have approximately 10 million megapixels. When you cram 10 million megapixels on to a sensor the size of the Casio, they have to be made smaller in order to fit. That can create problems with noise and distortion. When you have the same number of megapixels on a sensor like the one in the Nikon, they can be made larger and therefore gather more light which leads to better dynamic range and less noise. See link: http://www.suite101.com/content/digital-camera-sensor-size-a202402

It just depends upon what you want in a camera.

I hope this was remotely helpful..................Erich

Wow! Thanks for the info Erich1B. I didn't know there was that much of a difference in the die size. Browsing reviews which always seem to mostly focus on the good things, they only briefly mentioned noise with the Casio with the higher ISO and some other settings. Now I see this will be more of an issue with the casio.

When you say focal lengths are you meaning that the casio has a wider range of zoom? As in I would need multiple lenses for the Nikon to be comparable?

I have found a neat package deal from walmart that includes 2 lenses one with VR and one 55mm without VR. Is the VR needed on the 55mm lense?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nikon-D30...-Nikon-Guide-to-Digital-SLR-Photogra/14321840

One last question. I've read something about dust being a concern on DSLR cameras. What precautions are needed to prevent dust issues. Are they meaning in the camera on the mirror, or what? It almost looks like if you remove the lense then the mirror is exposed, is this correct?

Thanks!

 

[Erich1B]

Wow! Thanks for the info Erich1B. I didn't know there was that much of a difference in the die size. Browsing reviews which always seem to mostly focus on the good things, they only briefly mentioned noise with the Casio with the higher ISO and some other settings. Now I see this will be more of an issue with the casio. Don't get caught up in higher ISO hype - with a sensor the size of the Casio you won't be able to get quality pictures at higher ISO. When considering purchasing a camera, you have to ask yourself what sort of use will the camera have. If you are going to be shooting primarily in low light then you need a camera with good high ISO performance. If you will be shooting mostly during the day or indoors, then you will probably never shoot over 200 ISO, so who cares what the higher ISO performance of the camera is because you won't be using it.

When you say focal lengths are you meaning that the casio has a wider range of zoom? As in I would need multiple lenses for the Nikon to be comparable? Yes. However, the lenses listed in the link below cover a good range of focal lengths.


Understanding focal lengths - http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/camera-lenses.htm

I have found a neat package deal from walmart that includes 2 lenses one with VR and one 55mm without VR. Is the VR needed on the 55mm lense?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Nikon-D30...-Nikon-Guide-to-Digital-SLR-Photogra/14321840

That's not a bad deal. The non-VR (Vibration Reduction) lense would only be problematic if you were handholding the camera and shootng with a slower shutter speed - could cause some blur. If you use a tripod, no problem.

One last question. I've read something about dust being a concern on DSLR cameras. What precautions are needed to prevent dust issues. Are they meaning in the camera on the mirror, or what? It almost looks like if you remove the lense then the mirror is exposed, is this correct?

They mean on the sensor. The Nikon has the following (From Nikon's website)
Automatic Image Sensor Cleaning
Ultrasonic process and exclusive Airflow Control combats the accumulation of dust in front of the image sensor, safeguarding image quality shot after shot.

IMHO - The Nikon has a much better sensor: http://www.graftek.com/documents/pdf/presentations/Photonics_Spectra_CCDvsCMOS_Litwiller.pdf

Just food for thought, but a smaller more pocketable camera is the new Nikon P7000. http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Produ...0.html#tab-ProductDetail.ProductTabs.Overview

It's sensor is no where near as large as the D3000, but would be a better choice over the Casio - JMO.

Thanks!

 

[adamshappyl]

well sometime it is really hard for us to make some decisions.
i don't have any professional knowledge about camera but you may write down their disadvantages and disadvantages respectively and you may find the answer in the end! :laughing:

 

[X Racer]

It looks like this thread was resurrected by the OP, so I'll drop in my 2 cents.

No comparison here. The D3000 SLR is VASTLY superior to the Casio in every way other than size/weight. If you don't mind the larger size of the SLR then get it. It is faster, more durable, has far better image quality, has more options and accessories, more aftermarket support, and the list goes on ;-)

Erich's info was right on the money, perhaps aside from the price issue. Check out B&H Photo and Adorama, you should be able to find a D3000 or D60 with a 18-55mm lens for less than $500, maybe less than $400 even. Add the $225 55-200mm VR and you're good to go for around $600. This combo will give you more useful range, far more speed, and much better image quality than the Casio's built-in lens ;-)

I suppose I should note that I know a little about this as a working professional that has been featured in numerous publications, including being on the front page of Outdoor Photographer right now along with living legends George Lepp and Elizabeth Carmel ;-)

 

[videoman]

Check out the Fujifilm HS20EXR It's around $500, best bang for the buck, really !

 

[X Racer]

If you really want a pocket camera, check out the Canon S95, Canon G12, and the Nikon P7000 ;-)

 

[videoman]

I think he requested for a huge zoom for subjects 100 YARDS away. And close-ups at that.That's like over 300 feet.
Have yo seen the Fujifilm's zoom range on that thing ??