Impressions - Malkoff P60 Prototype Drop-In (Pics)

[AngryFish]

Just received Gene's new P60 module. For those of you who may not know, the P60 module is a drop in fit for the following surefire models. Z2, C2, G2Z, G2, 6P, D2. Currently I have it in a yellow G2 Nitrolon. This light normaly sits in the door of my car.

The incandescent Surefire branded P60 lamp produces right around 65 lumens and produces a smooth tight beam courtesy of its stippled reflector. According to Gene the Malkoff P60 drop-in produces an output of 1000ma or 240 lumens. It only draws 700ma from the batteries at 6v (very efficient). Gene said the light Requred an input of 4.5 to 8v for full output. Two fresh Surefire 123A produce about 6v and two freshly charged non protected RCR123A cells produce right around 8v. For the following beamshots I used the non protected RCR123A's. The beam is a very tight spot with useable flood. This light throws almost as far as a Malkoff 3d mag!!

Beamshot at 15ft against white wall, autofocus.

Beamshot at 15ft against white wall, underexposed to show shape of spot.

Comparison Beamshot at 15ft against white wall, Mag 5D stock bulb.

This is a front view of the emitter/reflector. My camera's batteries were dying so I apologize for the poor picture quality.

Malkoff Drop-In & Stock P60 Assembly Side-by-side.

The throw on this light is incredible. I feel like I'm wielding a lightsabre most of the time. I walked out to the pond behind my house last night and lit up a racoon who had traveled the bank in search of fish. the sidespill is definitely more useful on this than on my mag light. I will post some outdoor distance shots and a comparison of the 3D Malkoff Mag and the P60 module sometime soon. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

Big thanks to Gene for making these awesome mods available.

James M.

 

[cfromc]

Thanks for the post, I just found out about these and I think I want one!!

 

[Gene43]

Thank You for the kind words. I sincerely appreciate it.

Gene

 

[DM51]

Would you be able to get a side-by-side comparison beamshot of this and a WE 170 lm Cree D26 drop-in, which would also fit the G6?

 

[berfles]

Would you be able to get a side-by-side comparison beamshot of this and a WE 170 lm Cree D26 drop-in, which would also fit the G6?

Here is a shot that I tried to underexpose in Photoshop because I didn't do it in my camera itself, but maybe it'll show you what you want to see. This is the WE D26 in my G2 about 15.5ft on a garage door.

 

[021411]

Any chance I can buy one right now? If it's BRIGHTER than my WE HO 170 and modded Gladius w/ an SSC I'm in.

 

[AngryFish]

Ill try to get those distance beamshots up tonight. Unfortunately I have no way to get a lux reading off these lights. One thing I do know is that these have whetted my appetite for the tri-led ssc beast that gene is cooking up.

 

[DM51]

Here is a shot that I tried to underexpose in Photoshop because I didn't do it in my camera itself, but maybe it'll show you what you want to see. This is the WE D26 in my G2 about 15.5ft on a garage door.

Nice pic, but can you get the Malkoff and the Cree working side-by-side in the same photo, so we can see which is better?

 

[berfles]

Nice pic, but can you get the Malkoff and the Cree working side-by-side in the same photo, so we can see which is better?

I don't have the Malkoff, unless you mean you want me to put the two photographs we took side by side.

 

[DM51]

I don't have the Malkoff, unless you mean you want me to put the two photographs we took side by side.

I was hoping that someone could take a photo of both of them at once, ie both in the same photo alongside each other. That is the only way we will be able to compare them.

 

[berfles]

I was hoping that someone could take a photo of both of them at once, ie both in the same photo alongside each other. That is the only way we will be able to compare them.

Yeah, that's what I thought. I was just throwing something in until someone comes along who does own both of them.

Here's another one of my photo and AngryFish's with the autofocus. His seems closer than 15ft though, mine is 15.5ft. Maybe he zoomed in a bit or has a slightly different camera lens.

 

[Daekar]

What kind of runtime are you getting? If it's at least an hour and there aren't any heat issues when used in a G2, I can commit to buying at least one.

 

[Danintex]

I'll have 2 to start, then more later!

 

[AngryFish]

Here's another one of my photo and AngryFish's with the autofocus. His seems closer than 15ft though, mine is 15.5ft. Maybe he zoomed in a bit or has a slightly different camera lens.

I just counted off the distance and it is actually 13'9" from to wall to the stool that I had camera and lights set on. Thats what happens when I eyeball things
I have definitely noticed a larger hotspot and more useable sidespill than is normally seen with these long throwers.

What kind of runtime are you getting? If it's at least an hour and there aren't any heat issues when used in a G2, I can commit to buying at least one.

I dont have a runtime figure yet but will try to test that later tonight. As per Gene's info I tried to get as close to 8v as possible. Both the nonreg rcr123's I used were reading right in the vicinity of 4.0v off of my voltmeter giving me a theoretical 8v. I have a set of surefire 123a that I can throw in as well for a runtime test.

BTW. thanks for the responses to my post. Ive been active on a popular knife forum for some time and have been lurking here for almost 2 years now. I'm glad to be able to share my impressions with all of you.

 

[jumpstat]

AngryFish, are both pictures of the same exposure, shutterspeed, white balance etc? If they are different, it wouldn't be an accurate representation. Even if someone has both to compare, the camera settings needs to be the same + in the same environment (ambient light if any, better pitch black).
Also can you please measure the centerspot diameter @ 1 meter? Having this measurement, I can compare the beam profile with the Litemania V2 & DX's Cree drop ins that I have. Cheers.

 

[AngryFish]

AngryFish, are both pictures of the same exposure, shutterspeed, white balance etc? If they are different, it wouldn't be an accurate representation. Even if someone has both to compare, the camera settings needs to be the same + in the same environment (ambient light if any, better pitch black).

I have not attempted to compare the cree to the malkoff since I do not have access to the cree mod. the side by side picture above was from two different cameras.

All of the beamshots in my original post were done with the same camera same distance. One autofocus and one with adjusted exposure to show the beam shape. I'm not saying one is brighter than the other. I would have to pick up a cree module in order to make that decision.

 

[sgt253]

I'm in for two right now! Let me know how much.

Regards.

 

[Alin10123]

So is there any sidespill? it's hard to tell from the pics. Or is it mainly a spot?

 

[DM51]

Until we can see a proper comparison of the two, either with both of them in the same photo, or with one photo of each taken under identical conditions and parameters and with identical camera settings, it is not possible to make a judgment about which one is better.

 

[Gene43]

I agree!