In the USA is it legal to cuss out a cop?

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I used to work in a law library so does that make me a lawyer or a paralegal?
Again, I fail to understand whatever point you think it is you're making. Perhaps the Cafe is exempt, but I thought trolling was generally considered verboten. If you're asking an honest question, then my answer would be absolutely not. I would hope that you could come to that conclusion on your own.
 

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Again, I fail to understand whatever point you think it is you're making. Perhaps the Cafe is exempt, but I thought trolling was generally considered verboten.
I'm not trolling today. I really did work in a law library. When I wasn't trying to get drug dealers who were very insincere about their medical conditons compassionate release and more things......
 
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There used to be lots of very honest discourse on this site. Perhaps it's 'The Cafe,' me, or the general changes in the culture, but I find it very disappointing to have others put thoughts in my head or words in my mouth. Bykfixer made a very general statement. I responded to that general statement with a general answer. Rather than addressing my very specific response to a very general statement it has since been construed as 'advice.' At no point have I given any advice. In a criminal case, nuance matters. Specific details matter. That's how our system works. Anecdotal experience is not conclusive 'evidence' to support a hypothetical outcome in any hypothetical example. Any cop or lawyer I've ever dealt with wouldn't even begin to play that game. They have all simply discussed real world outcomes in similar scenarios with actual case law to support it and allowed others to draw their own conclusions.


If I were to hand out advice though, it would be to treat everyone with kindness and respect. Your life will always work out better that way.
 

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There used to be lots of very honest discourse on this site.


If I were to hand out advice though, it would be to treat everyone with kindness and respect. Your life will always work out better that way.
Here? They say threads used to get locked and people banned but I'm not sure what topics and things were stated and discussed. I some how either didn't notice or it was after I left for a while.

It is the internet and we are very toned down compared to Reddit.
 
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Here? They say threads used to get locked and people banned but I'm not sure what topics and things were stated and discussed. I some how either didn't notice or it was after I left for a while.

It is the internet and we are very toned down compared to Reddit.
I'm sure that's true. I did say it could be me.
 

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That reminds me that I rather like the poem "If" by Rudyard Kipling.
Not sure why the grumpiness over some friendly discussion, but here's the poem @Toulouse42 mentioned. It's a favourite of mine, too.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
⁠And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
⁠Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
⁠And—which is more—you'll be a Man, my son!
- Rudyard Kipling
 

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I tried. Some people just have to learn the hard way.
To be clear the police can and do makeup crimes all the time when they feel like they have been disrespected. Even though the courts have ruled that being disrespected is completely Allowed by the Constitution.

"Several federal court decisions have found that expressing contempt for police officers is protected speech under the First Amendment. In City of Houston v. Hill (1987), the Supreme Court ruled that the First Amendment "protects a significant amount of verbal criticism and challenge directed at police officers." In Swartz v. Insogna (2013), the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ruled that extending the middle finger at an officer is not grounds to stop or arrest an individual.[21][22] However, individual state laws that do not directly pertain to police officers, such as statutes for disorderly conduct and curse and abuse, can be legally used in such an arrest."
 
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