It had to happen ! Is this a Chinese Mora ?

[old4570]

Yes , I had to buy it ! If this is a Chinese Morakniv ? I really had to buy it . I have a Garberg , ( Real Deal ) . So there was little choice .
I am a Mora Fan Boy ! ( Though sometimes I don't sound like one ) . Mora's are incredibly average knives for very little money in some places , and overpriced in other places ( cough cough Oz ) . So the two options are ? Kansbol and Garberg ? I went ( I think ) with the one that looks like a Garberg .
I guess it had to happen . Those replicating C ( words ) . Oh dear !

 

[leukos]

Hope you got a nice deal on a chunk of Sandvik steel!

 

[old4570]

$44 Oz Bananas to my door with GST ! ....
I don't think I own any really good 12c27n . It's all ............................ so average or worse !
14c28n how ever . I have some really nice 14c28n .
I'm looking forward to seeing if I flushed $$ or not !

If this is a Chinese Mora , it will most likely be CrMov off some flavor !
Butt ! & it's a huge butt ... If it's well cooked CrMov it might impress ? ( Maybe )

 

[old4570]

It's here .. And it is very hard , seriously hard to call this knife a fake .
The box looks genuine ..
As does the knife ..
Butt & it's a huge butt !
The scandi edge is ......................................... not Morakniv . ( To me )
Unless they have changed the way they grind their edges .
Also there is a distinct secondary bevel . Morakniv does a micro bevel to the best of my knowledge and not a secondary bevel .
So the grind on the scandi edge looks nothing like a normal Morakniv machined edge . Otherwise it's a dead ringer !

 

[old4570]

 

[old4570]

Small update !
just spent two hours on the Diamond Plates removing the bevel ... Knife is full scandi now .

320 grit / 600 grit / 1000 grit / 2000 grit & 3000 grit ..

See you at the rope !

 

[vicv]

Geez. You paid more than double what a real mora would cost. Didn't realize things were so expensive there

 

[leukos]

Sorry to hear it was fake. I don't own a current Garberg to compare, but would agree the secondary bevel is not characteristic of Morakniv. Hopefully it is still a decent tempered piece of mystery steel that will serve as a beater knife.

 

[old4570]

It was a 1/3 or 1/4 the cost of a real Garberg . Depending on how much you want to pay !
it's full scandi now , so ? Be interesting to see how it goes on the rope .
Just checked the weather radar and lots of rain on the way ..

 

[iacchus]

It is conceivable that they source from China and do final QC and edge grinding in house.
In which case, those would just be the same product w/o Mora QC, grind, and warranty.

Just a thought.
There is more of that going on than most people realize. It is absolutely ubiquitous.

Also, enjoy it while it lasts. W/ things in China going the way they are, these "Golden Years" of Chinese manufacturing on the cheap don't look long for this world.

 

[old4570]

Aaaaaargh ... Watch the video ..
The belt loop on the sheath is fake leather .
And Morakniv has never blackened a SS blade to my knowledge .
And then there is the price ...
Has Morakniv moved production to China ? Was this part of a test batch ?
Yeah , I have no insider knowledge regarding any plausible reasons .
But , it looks like it is most likely a Chinese made Garberg . ( A plausible conclusion )

 

[vicv]

Aaaaaargh ... Watch the video ..
The belt loop on the sheath is fake leather .
And Morakniv has never blackened a SS blade to my knowledge .
And then there is the price ...
Has Morakniv moved production to China ? Was this part of a test batch ?
Yeah , I have no insider knowledge regarding any plausible reasons .
But , it looks like it is most likely a Chinese made Garberg . ( A plausible conclusion )

Well, a good amount of moras are under $20. So the price definitely is not a giveaway. The rest is though.

 

[old4570]

Garberg's are not under $20 Most of them look to start @ $80USD

+ I just sent an email to Morakniv ...

 

[vicv]

I don't know who garberg is I was talking about moraniv. But last companion i bought was around $20. Nice knife

I looked it up. Geez. They've really gotten above themselves charging that much for one of their knives.

 

[old4570]

Yeah , Garberg used to be the Premium Morakniv knife until about a year ago or so when they brought out a more Woke series of knives at even higher cost . If your going to charge more for a knife (?) then perhaps give the user a better knife ? ( Maybe ? )
Or just charge more for less !

 

[old4570]

Put to the rope !

450 slice fail ... Which is rather good for full scandi !
I did notice a little bit of roughness on the blade ( apex still too thin ) , but decided to slice rope anyway ! & where did the edge fail ? That's right , at the thinnest part that I point out at the start of the video .
For full scandi , that is excellent performance . Considering that MY SCANDI edges begin to fail at 200 slices depending on the amount of effort put into the edge . Butt ....... The scandi strops back 99% of the time very easily due to the fail being a rolled edge ! And the same thing happened again = A very easy strop back .

Value index is right around 10c a slice in this test . Price divided by performance !

Bushcrafty ...
The spine is crisp (just) enough to scrape wood . And it throws ferro very well .
Scraping wood did not damage the blade coating , but the ferro rod definitely did wear out the finish on the edge .

 

[ABTOMAT]

Just because a fake looks like the original it doesn't mean the original is made in China. They put a tremendous amount of effort into cosmetically duplicating the name brands. You can get a $20 knockoff of a $1000 custom knife that even the maker has a hard time identifying without destructive testing.

 

[old4570]

Mora is a town in Sweden and several knife manufacturers were based in that town .
The knives they made were called Mora Knives .. One company was even using the name mora as a brand name .
If mem serves there was a take over and Morakniv was born .
Morakniv is made in Sweden .

Will this continue to be the case ? So far , I'm calling this one a Chinese Clone .

The USA brands that have moved production to China , those knives might be leaking out of the factories to Chinese retail sites . Why clone something when all you have to do is back door it ?

I look forward to hearing from Morakniv ...

 

[old4570]

Just got a reply from Morakniv ...

And yes , the Chinese have started Cloning Morakniv ! ( Chinese Fake Mora's ) ....