LEP discussion thread: (White laser flashlights)

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Maybe it's time to get some discussion going on LEP flashlights here.
Here is a list of LEP flashlights that I know off, and many of them I own.

NameLEP classClaimed distanceClaimed CandelaMy
measurements:
Claimed lumensCellModesAdjustable beamStrobeYear
Acebeam W10Class 2M1,000250,000-250217001NoNo2018
Acebeam W10 gen IIClass 2M1,217370,272496,000450217001NoYes2019
Acebeam W30Class 2M2,4001,440,0001,312,000500217001NoNo2019
Amutorch BT35-1,371470,000402,800370186502NoNo2022
Amutorch BT55N/A2,8982,100,000-60021700?Yes?2021
Amutorch BT60-2,5601,640,0001,644,000400217002NoNo2022
Astrolux WP1N/A1,000250,000-480217003NoYes + SOS2020
Astrolux WP2N/A2,3001,322,500-480217003NoYes + SOS2020
Astrolux WP3-2,9002,180,0002,412,000562217003NoYes2021
Astrolux WP4-1,303425,000-310186502NoYes2022
Fenix HT30RClass 11,500600,000700,000500217002NoYes2022
Fenix TK30Class 3B1,200360,000384,000500217002NoYes2020
iTarlights WL20-3,000200,000-58021700*23NoYes2022
iTarlights WL30-1,495200,000-38021700*23NoYes2022
Jetbeam M1X WP-RXClass 3B2,3001,322,5002,280,000480217002NoNo2019
Jetbeam RRT M1X Raptor-2,3001,322,500880,000480217003NoYes + SOS2021
Jetbeam M2S WP-RXClass 3B**1,800**810,000345,200480217002NoNo2019
Jetbeam RRT M2S Raptor-1,000250,000248,000480217003NoYes + SOS2021
Loop SK01-1,600640,000350,000910183504YesNo2023
Lumintop Ant Man-59087,025-165145001NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 1-1,200342,000356,000400183503NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 2Class 3B1,800769,500891,00050018350/186503NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 3-2,5001,562,5001,728,000400217002NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 4 (hybrid)-1,170342,000356,000280217005NoNo2022
Lumintop Thor 5-1,200360,000-370183502NoYes,22022
Lumintop Thor PRO (Hybrid)-1,300426,200429,20030018650*45NoNo2022
Mateminco FW21,390483,000440,000350186502NoYes2022
Mateminco FW3 (hybrid)-1,356460,000284,000255217007NoYes2022
Maxtoch Owleyes W PRO-4,0004,000,0003,995,000120021700*23NoNo2022
Maxtoch Xsword L2K-2,0001,000,000-50018650*23NoNo2018
Maxtoch Xsword L2K (2021)-2,7001,823,0002,508,00060021700*23NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword L2KD-3,2002,560,0003,051,00065021700*33NoNo2022
Maxtoch Xsword L2KSD3,2002,560,000-650217003NoNo2023
Maxtoch Xsword L2Ks (short)-2,8001,960,0002,308,000600217003NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword L3K-3,0002,250,0001,908,00065021700*23NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword L3KS (short)-3,0002,250,000-650217003NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword LA60-2,5001,562,5002,272,00050021700*23YesNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword LA60S (short)-2,8001,960,000-500217003YesNo2021
Natfire SF2-1,200360,000347,600300217003NoYes2022
Nebo Luxtreme SL100 (hybrid)-1,600640,000676,00028021700*24NoNo2022
Nextorch L10 Max-1,200360,000-400217003NoYes2021
Nextorch T7LClass 3B1,100302,500428,000400186502NoYes2019
Nextorch T10LClass 3B1,100302,500484,000500217003NoYes2020
Nextorch T20LClass 3B2,0001,000,0001,284,000900217003NoYes + SOS2021
Nitecore P35i (hybrid)-1,650678,000674,400410217005NoYes2022
NlightD L1-2,4081,449,6161,940,000500217002NoNo2022
Olight Odin TurboClass 11,050275,625368,000330217002NoNo2021
Richfire SFC-039-500---217002NoYes + SOS2021
Unbranded 26650 LEPN/A1,800810,000992,000450266501NoYes2020
Weltool LH3 (head only)Class 3B886196,249-33518350/186501NoNo2020
Weltool W1-836175,000-630186502NoNo2022
Weltool W3Class 3B848179,776-200186502NoNo2018
Weltool W3 PROClass 3B1,205363,006363,600505217002NoNo2020
Weltool W3 PRO TacClass 11,479547,500583,600930217001+1NoYes2023
Weltool W35L/W65L-836175,000-630186501NoNo2022
Weltool W4Class 3B2,6701,782,2252,184,000560217002NoNo2020
Weltool W4 PRO-3,3942,882,0002,808,000568217002NoNo2022
Weltool W4 PRO Tac-3,3942,882,000-568217002NoYes2023
Weltool W5N/A2,8071,970,0001,716,0005992*22500/217002NoNo2021

Here's a huge LEP comparison video:


And a picture of 54 of my LEPs
 

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As a topic starter, I have the following ones:
- Acebeam W10 II
- Acebeam W30
- Astrolux WP2
- Fenix TK30
- Jetbeam M2S WP-RX
- Jetbeam M1X WP-RX
- Jetbeam RRT M1X Raptor
- Jetbeam RRT M2S Raptor
- Maxtoch Xsword L2K
- Nextorch T7L
- Nextorch T10L
- Unbranded 26650 LEP
- Weltool W3 PRO
- Weltool W4

If you have any questions about any of them, let me know.
 
Wow. That's a lot of LEP's! Been on the fence with getting one as there not really practical except for very special applications but would still love to see one with a led ring around the lep for general use.
 
I have one and to be honest it`s not Really practical for everyday use (unless you like ceiling bounce), it can be a lot of fun outdoors at night for sky writing though, especially if someone else is doing similar a distance away :)
My HID gives a much wider beam at about the same brightness and distance and is Much easier to see.
 
I think this is not the right place to have a discussion.. almost nobody visits this section on the site. It's not in a very convenient place, and hard to find. And you only find it if you really search for it. I think this "LEP" section was made too early before the topic became mainstream since it has only like 15 posts in 1 year. I would have kept it in the main flashlight discussion to get more interaction.

Edit: I was thinking about it, and if it was me, I would just put this section under 'Flashlights' which is a more proper place IMHO.
 
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True,
but how about adding it to the main Flashlight overview?
That's a much more suitable place for flashlights. It's not a laser pointer, and not really 'beyond flashlights'. It's like going from incandescent to LED :D it's just a new technology.
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True,
but how about adding it to the main Flashlight overview?
That's a much more suitable place for flashlights. It's not a laser pointer, and not really 'beyond flashlights'. It's like going from incandescent to LED :D it's just a new technology.
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Mods do not determine the "structure" of the forum, that is an Admin function.

As such, your specific comments above more properly belong in "Questions / Problems / Suggestions"

I recall CPF staff having this discussion around the time of creating the LEP forum, with reasoning on both sides. I think that a sensible case was also advanced for listing LEP in the "Spotlight / HID" forum.

However, if I recall correctly, the thinking back then was that the relevant technology and applicable regulations were most "laser-like" than "flashlight-like"

Should you feel that ought to be reconsidered, or otherwise want to discuss, you are welcome to mention that over in Q / P / S
 
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I don`t think too many folks even have a LEP (or want one) TBH, with HIDs being only slightly more popular, so that will reduce the likelyhood of much discussion as well.
 
When the first LEP came out it was 350 lumens and 250Kcd. I was like, no thanks, I have a torch that does 780 lumens and 1.3Mcd (TN42VN Oslon Black). But then came the Mateminco FW1 and a nice Summer Sale. It was too good to turn down.

I like the LEP. Distance from Old Zoo picnic area parking spaces to Bee Rock peak is 583 yards. Mateminco FW1 lights it up like a Selfbuilt 100 yard beamshot with the Surefire UB3T:
 

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This has crossed my mind for use on a weapon light rather than as a flashlight. Not having a lot of spill outside of the area you're targeting sounds like a good idea + no short range spill limits your "footprint" if you're not hanging out a window [(like in the movies) hint that's NOT the way to do it if you want to live long] A laser sight might be better for my use. Still $$ is tight enough that it's down the list aways
 
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I think as the technology improves they will be more widely accepted/used. I have an Acebeam W-10 2nd gen for night walks. The spot to flood ratio works for me.
It will be fun to see how LEPs evolve.
 
I own the Sky Lumen light and like it. Which of the lights you listed has the farthest throw / highest lumen
 

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