LEP discussion thread: (White laser flashlights)

ChibiM

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Maybe it's time to get some discussion going on LEP flashlights here.
Here is a list of LEP flashlights that I know off, and many of them I own.

NameLEP classClaimed distanceClaimed CandelaMy
measurements:
Claimed lumensCellModesAdjustable beamStrobeYear
Acebeam W10Class 2M1,000250,000-250217001NoNo2018
Acebeam W10 gen IIClass 2M1,217370,272496,000450217001NoYes2019
Acebeam W30Class 2M2,4001,440,0001,312,000500217001NoNo2019
Amutorch BT35-1,371470,000402,800370186502NoNo2022
Amutorch BT55N/A2,8982,100,000-60021700?Yes?2021
Amutorch BT60-2,5601,640,0001,644,000400217002NoNo2022
Astrolux WP1N/A1,000250,000-480217003NoYes + SOS2020
Astrolux WP2N/A2,3001,322,500-480217003NoYes + SOS2020
Astrolux WP3-2,9002,180,0002,412,000562217003NoYes2021
Astrolux WP4-1,303425,000-310186502NoYes2022
Fenix HT30RClass 11,500600,000700,000500217002NoYes2022
Fenix TK30Class 3B1,200360,000384,000500217002NoYes2020
iTarlights WL20-3,000200,000-58021700*23NoYes2022
iTarlights WL30-1,495200,000-38021700*23NoYes2022
Jetbeam M1X WP-RXClass 3B2,3001,322,5002,280,000480217002NoNo2019
Jetbeam RRT M1X Raptor-2,3001,322,500880,000480217003NoYes + SOS2021
Jetbeam M2S WP-RXClass 3B**1,800**810,000345,200480217002NoNo2019
Jetbeam RRT M2S Raptor-1,000250,000248,000480217003NoYes + SOS2021
Loop SK01-1,600640,000350,000910183504YesNo2023
Lumintop Ant Man-59087,025-165145001NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 1-1,200342,000356,000400183503NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 2Class 3B1,800769,500891,00050018350/186503NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 3-2,5001,562,5001,728,000400217002NoNo2021
Lumintop Thor 4 (hybrid)-1,170342,000356,000280217005NoNo2022
Lumintop Thor 5-1,200360,000-370183502NoYes,22022
Lumintop Thor PRO (Hybrid)-1,300426,200429,20030018650*45NoNo2022
Mateminco FW21,390483,000440,000350186502NoYes2022
Mateminco FW3 (hybrid)-1,356460,000284,000255217007NoYes2022
Maxtoch Owleyes W PRO-4,0004,000,0003,995,000120021700*23NoNo2022
Maxtoch Xsword L2K-2,0001,000,000-50018650*23NoNo2018
Maxtoch Xsword L2K (2021)-2,7001,823,0002,508,00060021700*23NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword L2KD-3,2002,560,0003,051,00065021700*33NoNo2022
Maxtoch Xsword L2KSD3,2002,560,000-650217003NoNo2023
Maxtoch Xsword L2Ks (short)-2,8001,960,0002,308,000600217003NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword L3K-3,0002,250,0001,908,00065021700*23NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword L3KS (short)-3,0002,250,000-650217003NoNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword LA60-2,5001,562,5002,272,00050021700*23YesNo2021
Maxtoch Xsword LA60S (short)-2,8001,960,000-500217003YesNo2021
Natfire SF2-1,200360,000347,600300217003NoYes2022
Nebo Luxtreme SL100 (hybrid)-1,600640,000676,00028021700*24NoNo2022
Nextorch L10 Max-1,200360,000-400217003NoYes2021
Nextorch T7LClass 3B1,100302,500428,000400186502NoYes2019
Nextorch T10LClass 3B1,100302,500484,000500217003NoYes2020
Nextorch T20LClass 3B2,0001,000,0001,284,000900217003NoYes + SOS2021
Nitecore P35i (hybrid)-1,650678,000674,400410217005NoYes2022
NlightD L1-2,4081,449,6161,940,000500217002NoNo2022
Olight Odin TurboClass 11,050275,625368,000330217002NoNo2021
Richfire SFC-039-500---217002NoYes + SOS2021
Unbranded 26650 LEPN/A1,800810,000992,000450266501NoYes2020
Weltool LH3 (head only)Class 3B886196,249-33518350/186501NoNo2020
Weltool W1-836175,000-630186502NoNo2022
Weltool W3Class 3B848179,776-200186502NoNo2018
Weltool W3 PROClass 3B1,205363,006363,600505217002NoNo2020
Weltool W3 PRO TacClass 11,479547,500583,600930217001+1NoYes2023
Weltool W35L/W65L-836175,000-630186501NoNo2022
Weltool W4Class 3B2,6701,782,2252,184,000560217002NoNo2020
Weltool W4 PRO-3,3942,882,0002,808,000568217002NoNo2022
Weltool W4 PRO Tac-3,3942,882,000-568217002NoYes2023
Weltool W5N/A2,8071,970,0001,716,0005992*22500/217002NoNo2021

Here's a huge LEP comparison video:


And a picture of 54 of my LEPs
 

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As a topic starter, I have the following ones:
- Acebeam W10 II
- Acebeam W30
- Astrolux WP2
- Fenix TK30
- Jetbeam M2S WP-RX
- Jetbeam M1X WP-RX
- Jetbeam RRT M1X Raptor
- Jetbeam RRT M2S Raptor
- Maxtoch Xsword L2K
- Nextorch T7L
- Nextorch T10L
- Unbranded 26650 LEP
- Weltool W3 PRO
- Weltool W4

If you have any questions about any of them, let me know.
 

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Wow. That's a lot of LEP's! Been on the fence with getting one as there not really practical except for very special applications but would still love to see one with a led ring around the lep for general use.
 

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I have one and to be honest it`s not Really practical for everyday use (unless you like ceiling bounce), it can be a lot of fun outdoors at night for sky writing though, especially if someone else is doing similar a distance away :)
My HID gives a much wider beam at about the same brightness and distance and is Much easier to see.
 

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I think this is not the right place to have a discussion.. almost nobody visits this section on the site. It's not in a very convenient place, and hard to find. And you only find it if you really search for it. I think this "LEP" section was made too early before the topic became mainstream since it has only like 15 posts in 1 year. I would have kept it in the main flashlight discussion to get more interaction.

Edit: I was thinking about it, and if it was me, I would just put this section under 'Flashlights' which is a more proper place IMHO.
 
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True,
but how about adding it to the main Flashlight overview?
That's a much more suitable place for flashlights. It's not a laser pointer, and not really 'beyond flashlights'. It's like going from incandescent to LED :D it's just a new technology.
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True,
but how about adding it to the main Flashlight overview?
That's a much more suitable place for flashlights. It's not a laser pointer, and not really 'beyond flashlights'. It's like going from incandescent to LED :D it's just a new technology.
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Mods do not determine the "structure" of the forum, that is an Admin function.

As such, your specific comments above more properly belong in "Questions / Problems / Suggestions"

I recall CPF staff having this discussion around the time of creating the LEP forum, with reasoning on both sides. I think that a sensible case was also advanced for listing LEP in the "Spotlight / HID" forum.

However, if I recall correctly, the thinking back then was that the relevant technology and applicable regulations were most "laser-like" than "flashlight-like"

Should you feel that ought to be reconsidered, or otherwise want to discuss, you are welcome to mention that over in Q / P / S
 
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I don`t think too many folks even have a LEP (or want one) TBH, with HIDs being only slightly more popular, so that will reduce the likelyhood of much discussion as well.
 
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When the first LEP came out it was 350 lumens and 250Kcd. I was like, no thanks, I have a torch that does 780 lumens and 1.3Mcd (TN42VN Oslon Black). But then came the Mateminco FW1 and a nice Summer Sale. It was too good to turn down.

I like the LEP. Distance from Old Zoo picnic area parking spaces to Bee Rock peak is 583 yards. Mateminco FW1 lights it up like a Selfbuilt 100 yard beamshot with the Surefire UB3T:
 

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This has crossed my mind for use on a weapon light rather than as a flashlight. Not having a lot of spill outside of the area you're targeting sounds like a good idea + no short range spill limits your "footprint" if you're not hanging out a window [(like in the movies) hint that's NOT the way to do it if you want to live long] A laser sight might be better for my use. Still $$ is tight enough that it's down the list aways
 
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I think as the technology improves they will be more widely accepted/used. I have an Acebeam W-10 2nd gen for night walks. The spot to flood ratio works for me.
It will be fun to see how LEPs evolve.
 

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I own the Sky Lumen light and like it. Which of the lights you listed has the farthest throw / highest lumen
 
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