Looks like the Zebralight SC600 MKIII specs are up. (also SC5FD and SC5FC released)

[fnsooner]

As you can tell, I am waffling on this light. Part of that is that I have not yet wrapped my head around the XP-L emitter. With a domeless emitter, it seems like most of the lumens would be pushed straight ahead and the use of the reflector would be lessened. I may be completely wrong about this though.

If I recall, when I compared my SC62w to my SC600, the throw distance between the two wasn't significant. At least not enough to make up for the size difference as an EDC.


At this point, I am not sure what the differences of the actual throw distances would be. I would give up a little lux for pocketability.

 

[WalkIntoTheLight]

As you can tell, I am waffling on this light. Part of that is that I have not yet wrapped my head around the XP-L emitter. With a domeless emitter, it seems like most of the lumens would be pushed straight ahead and the use of the reflector would be lessened. I may be completely wrong about this though.

Could be. I guess we'll have to wait and see how the LED really performs.

If I recall, when I compared my SC62w to my SC600, the throw distance between the two wasn't significant. At least not enough to make up for the size difference as an EDC.

Selfbuilt tested the lux (at 1 meter) as 7500 for the SC62, and 11000 for the SC600. So, it's a fairly big difference.

If the SC600 markIII can get over 20000 lux in a neutral white, I'll consider it. Otherwise, meh, probably better sticking with a flood.

 

[recDNA]

That is why I suggested an sc62w with narrow optic and XP-L Hi. For warm weather. In the winter I carry a predator in jacket and I doubt sc600 will beat it no matter what

 

[WalkIntoTheLight]

That is why I suggested an sc62w with narrow optic and XP-L Hi. For warm weather. In the winter I carry a predator in jacket and I doubt sc600 will beat it no matter what

I just don't see Zebralight putting the XP-L HI in the SC62, unless they scrap the SC600 line. Otherwise, what's the point of the SC600?

 

[Amelia]

It used to be a flood light, because it housed an XML2 in an OP reflector. Now they're focusing on throw, using an XPL domeless version (smaller led compared to XML2 if i'm not mistaken), with a smooth reflector. I think it's the right move in an effort to differentiate the SC600 series from the SC62 series. Prior to this move, the SC600 was just a fatter SC62 IMO.

This.

 

[Amelia]

I just don't see Zebralight putting the XP-L HI in the SC62, unless they scrap the SC600 line. Otherwise, what's the point of the SC600?

Heat dissipation.

 

[markr6]

Heat dissipation.

Yes! And I still say the beams are totally different. Did I just get a fluke? The SC600 throws much better than the SC62. But the XPL HI will be a nice change to widen that gap between the two.

 

[twistedraven]

Heat dissipation.

If you check Selfbuilt's review of the SC62, you'll see that the two lights (62 and 600) are actually not that far apart in thermal performance. The SC600 does have an edge, but it's nothing to write home about.

Making one a flooder and one a thrower sets them apart even more then what they were.

 

[recDNA]

Is the idea of better throw in a small head so odd? I know 600 will throw more but over 10k lux from a tiny head would be great imo. I will never pocket carry a real thrower.

I bet it would sell

 

[fnsooner]

Selfbuilt tested the lux (at 1 meter) as 7500 for the SC62, and 11000 for the SC600. So, it's a fairly big difference.

Good info. If the XP-L HI were to double the lux in both lights, that would put the SC62 at 15000 and the SC600 at 22000. That would still be a tough decision for me. Mostly because I am not interested in most things SC600, but am interested in all things SC62. I would buy an SC62w HI for sure. I am on the fence on whether I will buy an SC600w MK III HI. Probably will at some point.

That is why I suggested an sc62w with narrow optic and XP-L Hi.

I'm in.

 

[Mr Floppy]

As you can tell, I am waffling on this light. Part of that is that I have not yet wrapped my head around the XP-L emitter. With a domeless emitter, it seems like most of the lumens would be pushed straight ahead and the use of the reflector would be lessened. I may be completely wrong about this though.

No, you're not quite right. Surface brightness is what helps throw. A smaller viewing angle does not and in a reflector will give it a bigger spot. Without the dome, you get a higher surface brightness. As for how a bigger reflector helps, will leave that to a proper expert to explain.

 

[markr6]

I am on the fence on whether I will buy an SC600w MK III HI. Probably will at some point.

Same here. Knowing me, I'll buy it and resell it right away. Worth the $10 or so loss just to satisfy my curiosity. Zebralight just has me hooked like that for some reason! Actually, I think I will keep it if it's anywhere "close" to my S200C2. Then again, I prefer forward clickies with momentary on throwers. Wait and see...

 

[CelticCross74]

having already bought the freaking outstanding XP-l HI module for my T25C2 I just dont see the new ZL, although Im sure it will be impressive, outperforming it thus not on my to but list

 

[fnsooner]

No, you're not quite right. Surface brightness is what helps throw. A smaller viewing angle does not and in a reflector will give it a bigger spot. Without the dome, you get a higher surface brightness. As for how a bigger reflector helps, will leave that to a proper expert to explain.

Thanks for the info. I am a flood guy that mostly gave up on throwers. I keep thinking maybe these domeless Crees are my ticket to having a small thrower that I like. Whether I buy this light or not, I am definitely interested in what these new emitters can do in a small light... and a large multi emitter light.

 

[markr6]

Now I'm really excited for this one!

Model

MSRP

Battery

LED

Typical CRI

Norminal CCT

Beam Type

Models w/ Similar Beam Profile

Modes

ANSI OTF Max Output

ANSI OTF Low Output

Bezel Diameter

Length

Weight

Released

Notes

(USD)

AA

CR123

18650

(Kelvin)

(Lumens)

(hrs)

(Lumens)

(hrs)

(Inch)

(Inch)

(oz)

SC Series Side Clicky Flashlight

SC600w Mk III HI

95

1

Cree XHP35 HI

80

4500

spill + spot

SC600 I & II

15

PID

0.01

6 mo

1.2

3.8

2.35

11/ 2015

SC600w Mk III

95

1

Cree XHP35

80

4500

spill + spot

15

PID

0.01

6 mo

1.2

3.8

2.35

10/ 2015

SC600 Mk III

95

1

Cree XHP35

70

5700

spill + spot

15

PID

0.01

6 mo

1.2

3.8

2.35

10/ 2015

 

[127.0.0.1]

when zebralight made the h600 ------>4-click to check battery state

best thing ever

 

[markr6]

when zebralight made the h600 ------>4-click to check battery state

best thing ever

I like it. I need at least SOMETHING on my lights to give me an idea of the battery state. I'm not going to take a DMM with me backpacking! Nitecore had the best IMO, 4 flashes then 1 flash = 4.1v. Simple and accurate in my experience.

Zebralight's is OK. Once I get 2 flashes I know I need to stop burning H1 so much and be a little more conservative if I don't have the ability to recharge. I don't care if it's only somewhat reliable. It's good enough for me.

 

[LessDark]

What, a XHP35?? How are they going to make a single 18650 run a 12v LED?? Short runtimes?
I didn't see that one coming....

 

[markr6]

The lowest mode gained some runtime, so hopefully the high didn't change much.

 

[snowlover91]

What, a XHP35?? How are they going to make a single 18650 run a 12v LED?? Short runtimes?
I didn't see that one coming....

Im expecting them to use a similar circuit board as what they have in the SC5fd lights. I believe the Easywhite need 6v and from a 1.2v Eneloop to 6v is a big jump. From ~4v from 18650 to 12v isn't as big a jump, so I would expect similar performance and they have efficient drivers.