Lumens Factory Lamps Decision for an E1E

[Centropolis]

I bought a used E1E and thinking of getting a higher output lamp from Lumens Factory to put in it.

The original E1E lamp is rated at 15 lumens.

I am wondering how the lumen ratings for the EO-E1R (3.6V, 90 Lumens) and the HO-E1R (3.6V, 50 Lumens) compare to the Surefire 15 lumens rating.

Is the HO-E1R really 3 times as bright as the original lamp? I mean it is hard to measure but I am trying to decide whether to go with the HO or EO based on if the lumens is kind of like SF's out the front.

If the HO is much brighter than the original E1E 15 lumens lamp, then I will probably go with the HO and get more runtime.

 

[Brizzler]

Not an expert myself but looking at the beamshots here, EO-E1R's output seems to correspond to at least the 60 SF lumens rated output MN03 pictured next to it. So knocking off a third off the bulb rating by LF to get rough SF lumens I reckon the HO-E1R should be significantly brighter than the MN01. Hope that helps!

 

[effulgentOne]

The rule of thumb I've seen is to divide LF lumens by 2 to get Surefire lumens (because Surefire measures average out the front lumens, while lumens factory measures peak bulb lumens), so the HO-E1R would be about 25 SF lumens, and the EO would be about 45.

That said, the lumens factory bulbs generally also have more throw than their Surefire counterparts, so even comparing two bulbs with the same corrected lumens values, the lumens factory one might look brighter, because the hotspot is slightly more intense.

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

I bought a used E1E and thinking of getting a higher output lamp from Lumens Factory to put in it.

The original E1E lamp is rated at 15 lumens.

I am wondering how the lumen ratings for the EO-E1R (3.6V, 90 Lumens) and the HO-E1R (3.6V, 50 Lumens) compare to the Surefire 15 lumens rating.

Is the HO-E1R really 3 times as bright as the original lamp? I mean it is hard to measure but I am trying to decide whether to go with the HO or EO based on if the lumens is kind of like SF's out the front.

If the HO is much brighter than the original E1E 15 lumens lamp, then I will probably go with the HO and get more runtime.

The EO-E1R feels like having the power of the P60 (and even better throw) from a ridiculously tiny E1e, it will totally blow you away!

Having said that, my favorite LF lamp is the HO-E1R, because it has more practical runtime and still loads of more lumens compared to the stock MN01.

 

[Robocop]

I have both and use them often and will say first that yes they are at least twice as bright to my eyes and the throw is very good on both. I like the EO best for the "wow" factor as it is the brightest single cell incan I have.....I use the HO the most as it is really a good blend of function with decent runtime.

To me the more useful package is the HO and both are very white tinted and at times it is hard to tell much difference in output. In throw it is easy to see the difference between the two lamps so if you need the best throw go with the EO. If you want a little less throw, better runtime, and maybe 30 percent less output go with the HO.

You may want to consider the 40 lumen standard 123 cell lamp as it is also a very good performer however can not take rechargeables.

 

[Centropolis]

Thanks for everyone's input.

I think I going to go with HO for now.

Another thing is, this is going to be the first incan that I will keep I think. I've had the M4 and a G2 but I have sold both of them.

The lifetime runtime on these LF lamps (and I guess SF ones too) are like 15 to 20 hours. Now I know the 15 hours will probably last most people a longer time than they think because most of the time is short burst usesage.

However, for me...I will probably use it for walking around campgrounds or trails at night for maybe up to two hours at a time. If that's the case, the lamp will only last me a few camping trips. I guess most people will recommend me going back to LEDs for this type of thing?

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

Thanks for everyone's input.

I think I going to go with HO for now.

Another thing is, this is going to be the first incan that I will keep I think. I've had the M4 and a G2 but I have sold both of them.

The lifetime runtime on these LF lamps (and I guess SF ones too) are like 15 to 20 hours. Now I know the 15 hours will probably last most people a longer time than they think because most of the time is short burst usesage.

However, for me...I will probably use it for walking around campgrounds or trails at night for maybe up to two hours at a time. If that's the case, the lamp will only last me a few camping trips. I guess most people will recommend me going back to LEDs for this type of thing?

the lamp will only last me a few camping trips. I guess most people will recommend me going back to LEDs for this type of thing?

Not according to my experience. I've been using this setup for 2 years exclusively for camping and hiking, and so far, only one bulb died. Actually, it died in my room with 15 minutes of life in it (factory defect). Not a single LF bulb of mine died of aging. Screw LEDs!! They ain't worth sheeit in the woods...

 

[Centropolis]

Not according to my experience. I've been using this setup for 2 years exclusively for camping and hiking, and so far, only one bulb died. Actually, it died in my room with 15 minutes of life in it (factory defect). Not a single LF bulb of mine died of aging. Screw LEDs!! They ain't worth sheeit in the woods...

That's good to hear. I just thought of something that will probably stall my decision again. I was going to order the HO and then I thought maybe I can just use the EO with a 17670 in a L4 body with the E1E head. (L2E? haha)

 

[Outdoors Fanatic]

That's good to hear. I just thought of something that will probably stall my decision again. I was going to order the HO and then I thought maybe I can just use the EO with a 17670 in a L4 body with the E1E head. (L2E? haha)

Not an L2E, that's actually the real E2e. They use the same L4 body and tailcap.

We all put the EO in the E2e running on a single 16760, it's great.

 

[Illum]

Not an L2E, that's actually the real E2e. They use the same L4 body and tailcap.

We all put the EO in the E2e running on a single 16760, it's great.

16760? :lolsign:
I've started a thread with an incorrect number like that as well

If your E2e can run 17670s go for it, if not
EO-E2R running two RCR123As isn't a bad choice either

I once thought about slapping an incandescent in my E1e...but then I thought better of it and slapped on a KX2 instead...runs surprisingly long on RCR123As, over 3 hours before going dark

 

[Centropolis]

16760? :lolsign:
I've started a thread with an incorrect number like that as well

If your E2e can run 17670s go for it, if not
EO-E2R running two RCR123As isn't a bad choice either

I once thought about slapping an incandescent in my E1e...but then I thought better of it and slapped on a KX2 instead...runs surprisingly long on RCR123As, over 3 hours before going dark

I tried putting in my Trustfire/Ultrafire (i forgot which one) 17670 into my L4 body and it didn't fit well. I had to push it in, so I stopped.

Too bad.