Just picked up a fenix pd 30. Seems pretty cool. you get what you pay for though. The two surefires I have feel much more durable. I also noticed that the claimed 117 lumen setting on the fenix is not as bright as the claimed 60 lumen setting on my e2l. And the turbo (220lm) is only slightly brighter than the e2ls 60LM. Kinda funny huh? I dont have one but I am sure that a L4 would blow the fenix out of the water.