Petzl 2008 - new headlamps

[Daniel_sk]

The new Petzl 2008 Sport catalog can be downloaded here (33MB).

The have a new multi-led headlamp, looks like Cree or Seoul. They claim 350 lumens! (and Petzl doesn't usually overrate lumen ratings).

Here is a picture of the catalog page:


They also updated the Myo XP (200% more brightness):


Unfortunately, they probably didn't update the Tikka XP...

 

[stollman]

I had called Petzl in January, 2008 about the upgrades to the XP. They said they were going to release an upgraded version of hte Myo XP in March, 2008 with 80 lumen output.

FYI

 

[adirondackdestroyer]

WOW! That first one looks incredible! Do we have any idea as to how much it costs? I'm hoping $100 or under.

 

[monkeyboy]

The new myo xp is priced around $80 so I'm guessing the ultra model will be significantly more than that with it's 6 leds, li-ion pack and charger. I wouldn't want to hazard a guess at the price but it's going to be a lot more than $100.

 

[AlexSchira]

I have found my perfect headlamp.

...Interesting harness design, as well.

This thing is going to be my new desktop wallpaper.

 

[W-c.Scenario]

Looks really nice.
I looked in the catalog and it says that it is "stormproof", is that really a better rating then "waterproof"?

 

[Daniel_sk]

No, most Petzl headlamps are not ment for submersion, but they will survive any sort of rain. I think that Petzl is quite conservative in their ratings - for example the Tikka XP is also rated as "storm-proof" - but it has O-rings everywhere and I am sure it could survive a few minutes under water. Anyway - these headlamps are not ment for diving , and rain won't hurt these headlamps - so you don't need to worry.

 

[AlexSchira]

This looks to be the AK-47 of headlamps...Extremely modular. Notice the basic model has the back-mounting ability AND can turn into a belt model with a cable. If you really want to switch around a lot, it'd make more sense to get the Ultra and the cables rather than just the belt model. The speed-loader battery packs (Which are rumored on some forums to charge within...minutes?!) add reliability. I'd rather swap out a pack than fiddle with batteries and plastic tabs in the cold. Wish it were helmet-mountable, but biking doesn't require a spot-light. I'm awaiting further details on anything about this light, anything from price to LED type.

 

[W-c.Scenario]

Heres a ->link<- with a video and some price settings,
ACCU 4:
400 euros
ACCU 2:
340 euros / 540$

 

[monkeyboy]

That's a little steeper than I was expecting but still priced well below the Lupine wilma X. Funny how it's suddenly become a lot more appealing now that I know it's a more expensive product.

 

[ifor powell]

Looks interesting. I can only assume that the heat is what's keeping it down to 350 Lemen. Even 6 old rather than modern led's would do more if you just pushed them a little. Looks like there is somthing similar to an Apex with some heatsinking wrapped in a plastic cover. What we realy need is a metal housing and just plastic for the bit between the light and your head, which is of course what my home made effort has. 400 euro for the big battery version is asking rather a lot for only 350 Lumen but there is not realy much competition in the big headlamp department so it's not suprising.

Google came up with somthing at www.petzlultra.com but nothing there any more so I guess we will have to wait some more.

 

[AlexSchira]

There's our ceiling guess, and the talk of a 'reserve mode' is interesting. Even after the battery is dead you get 45 minutes somehow. The close-up of the harness makes it clear it's a lightweight pocket affair for climbers, the pack mounts lower on the back. The packs are named for the hours it'll run on high, 2 and 4.

 

[monkeyboy]

400 euro for the big battery version is asking rather a lot for only 350 Lumen but there is not realy much competition in the big headlamp department so it's not suprising.

There's more to a light than just lumens. Build quality, reliability , runtime and efficiency, waterproofing etc. are also important. 350lm from 6 cree/SSC LEDs would run very efficiently, Luxeon III pushed to this level would be consuming 2-3 times the power giving poor runtime and a lot more heat. You also have to consider that Petzl rate their lumen output more conservatively than others.

 

[ifor powell]

There's more to a light than just lumens. Build quality, reliability , runtime and efficiency, waterproofing etc. are also important. 350lm from 6 cree/SSC LEDs would run very efficiently, Luxeon III pushed to this level would be consuming 2-3 times the power giving poor runtime and a lot more heat. You also have to consider that Petzl rate their lumen output more conservatively than others.

I am not arguing there, just thinking that if you got rid of the plastic housing, you would have the oportunaty to get more at the expense of runtime for the same sort of weight. For my primary usage of night Orienteering then with those 6 leds pushed harder would give a potentaily very good light and it will definatly be more watterproof then my home made afair...

 

[PhantomPhoton]

I also agree that theres more to a light than lumens.
This is significantly more important (an order magnitude imho) on a headlamp.
Hopefully it will be well made, Petzl hasn't been bad at this but has still definitely left some things to be desired in build quality lately.
If the light can't handle being at the bottom (yea it happens sometimes) of a 25kg pack all day on the trail, or be drenched in a Washington rainforest then it is useless.

 

[276]

cool..... wish the catalog would load though

 

[PhantomPhoton]

cool..... wish the catalog would load though

Their website is going slow atm. I got the catalog down in ~10 minutes by using [right click] save as on my windows box.

 

[adirondackdestroyer]

$540 for a product made by Petzl??? What is their most expensive item prior to this? This just seems like a lot of money for an item made out of plastic. Oh well. :sigh:

 

[Sarratt]

I don't think the new Myo XP or Myo XP Belt are 500$.

It's the 6 Cree Ultra Belt Ultra thats the expensive one.

Still ....sadly, too rich for my blood.

 

[Changchung]

I think we are ok with our Petzl mod with SSC...