Pocket Radio Query

kilogulf59

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Greetings. Recently, I got a bee in my bonnet to get a small, pocket type radio. What I'm looking for is an AM/FM/Weather unit with a plug for an earpiece (a jack for an external antenna would be icing on the cake). Obviously, reception would be the main concern. Does anyone know anything about these radios? Is there a forum dealing with these types of radios (if so, I didn't find it)? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about: Kaito KA210 Pocket AM/FM NOAA Weather Radio
 
Kaito makes good radios, at least in my experience. I have the little brother of that one, the KA 200. It's really tiny, so the speaker isn't great, but through headphones it's fine. I guess the best with AM/FM/Weather may be the CC Pocket. It's kind of pricey, but it's got more features. If you don't want a digital readout, clock, alarm, etc., the Kaito should be good. Tecsun makes good radios, too, and, of course, Sony and Panasonic. There's a bunch of off-brands on Amazon that might do fine, but it's always a crap shoot. There's a guy on You Tube named Todderbert who does very detailed reviews of radios. You might check some of those.

Geoff
 
I'm not familiar with what's on the market right now, because I'm still using my long-discontinued Sony SRF-M37W, but if it ever fails, I'd like to know what's out there that I can use to replace it.
 
First off, let me say thanks for all your assistance. Second, I didn't realize there were all the options out there. With what I've picked up here and what I've found out researching it on my own, I think I have it narrowed down to two radios. One being the C. Crane Pocket and the other a Sangean DT-800. I've watched and read reviews until my eyes fell out and these two units seem to get excellent marks across the boards.

On another forum, someone mentioned todderbert on YouTube; I had forgotten about him. I've subscribed to his channel for a long time and find him a good source; the man knows a lot. If anyone's interested, I've posted the links to his videos on the radios I'm considering.

There's one more that I want to look into further and that's the Kaito KA210, which I mentioned in my OP. This is based on money, of course. Cheap I'm not, but thrifty and frugal I am. The question is do I need a $65 radio if a $15 one will suit my needs? On the other hand, I don't want to waste $15 on a POJ either. We'll see. I posted todderbert's review of the Kaito below as well.





 
Realize that with that Kaito model, you're going to be missing features. Blatant one being a digital display to tune in easily on specific channels. Reception in some areas is likely going to be an issue. Whereas with the other contenders, it's just going to be less of an issue. And durability as well. Don't expect that Kaito to survive if dropped onto a concrete sidewalk. If it does, consider it a small miracle.

Pocket radios are like most things in life. You really do get what you pay for. Taking a closer look, that particular Kaito model was sold many years ago under a different name through County Comm. I bought one. It was decent, at best. Would I toss it into a Bug-out bag for emergency use? Absolutely not! For daily carry in a cargo pants pocket, or in a sling-bag, or Work-bag; it's perfectly acceptable. In a mass emergency event that would require grabbing your Bug-out bag and using the contents inside? No. That is as basic of a pocket radio as you can get.

I do have a bright yellow colored exterior version of that C.Crane Pocket DX Hunter. Absolutely excellent. That one I would put into a Bug-out bag. Main thing for me is having a good digital display so that I know I'm properly tuned into an individual station. Not having to micro adjust a tiny rotary knob if I accidentally bump the radio a bit, and just get static.
 
I hear ya, @Monocrom . One thing that did occur to me was trying that Kaito KA210. If it's not for me (and it probably won't be), I can give it to my oldest grandson. He's 12 and would love it. If I do like it, I'll get him one as well. I'm still thinking C. Crane Pocket or the Sangean DT-800.
 
The Sony ICF-P26 / ICF-P27 radios are what I give away for hurricanes/emergencies. ~100 hours on 2xAA batteries with speaker, nearly double that if used with headphones. Sound quality is... good enough in an emergency. Build quality is surprisingly good for the price.

If you're looking for a tabletop, the Sony ICF-19 gets my vote. 400 hours on 3xD cells, so this radio will get you through any natural disaster without a battery change. The long battery life also makes it quite usable for daily use in normal times as well.

No weather band on these guys, but at least in my area NOAA weather radio's useless since they went to the automated systems.

They have it reading so many unnecessary reports with so much detail that you'll never actually hear weather info. Ours chokes on the Coastal Waters Forecast, which gives the weather and wave info for the next 5 days and nights....for 8(!) different areas. Just the night forecast for one area reads,

"Northeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 foot or
less, then around 2 feet after midnight. Wave Detail: Southeast
1 foot at 4 seconds and west 1 foot at 5 seconds, becoming east
1 foot at 5 seconds and west 1 foot at 5 seconds. Bay and inland
waters light chop. A slight chance of thunderstorms. Showers
likely, mainly in the evening. "


imagine listening to 10 of those...8 times in a row....for each of the separate areas...just to hopefully get to weather...but nope...then there's tide info...buoy info... and the endless stream of robotic verbal vomit continues.

During the hurricanes, the machine keeps spewing useless info. There's a Cat 5 outside my window... I'm not thinking about yachting for the foreseeable future when that's going on outside.

RadioJayAllen.com is a bit of a mess in organization, but has some wonderful reviews once you find them.
 
@TPA Sony makes some nice radios. We've had a Sangean PR-D15 as a counter top radio for about three years now. Not bad for what it is. We get next to no AM reception here but the FM's great.

I have two dedicated weather alert radios. A Sangean CL-100 and a Midland WR-300. I know what you mean about the robot forecasts and they fire off alerts when a bird craps. They're boxed up and put away. Great idea but NOAA/NWS needs to perfect it.

RadioJayAllen.com is good. Very informative and practical reviews.
 
It kinda still drives me nuts that Yaesu never added NOAA Weather Band to the FT-817 series. It seems like a no-brainer. I miss my FT-817ND.

I also have a Sony ICF-7600G portable shortwave set, but it too has no weather band.
 
Just purchased a new Kaito KA210.
I do keep an emergency radio in my work-bag. But it's AM/FM only. No Weather band. Plus, it is bulky! Inexpensive Sony model. Decided the Kaito would be a better option. Picked one up for just over $15.oo on eBay, with shipping included. I still don't think it would be ideal for a Bug Out Bag. But, daily EDC in a work-bag is a different story.
 
I experienced something very odd during Hurricane Irma in 2017. Tons of multipath interference across the radio spectrum. Comcast shat the bed very early, about 9pm, power went out around midnight. We started with listening to the radio on my Panasonic RF-537, but after awhile the signals became so comingled you couldn't make anything out.

I pulled out my Sony SW-100E and even it struggled to make heads nor tails of the airwaves. The next day after the storm had passed, both radios were working normally. Something odd atmospherically happened during the hurricane, but I'm not sure what. Plenty of other things going on at the time to worry about that. I was involved with keeping a few hospitals going and supplied, so I really didn't care, but it was one of those unusual things I noted.
 
Something odd atmospherically happened during the hurricane, but I'm not sure what.
Disclaimer: This is a complex question and I am NOT a radio communications expert.

The very short version is yes, atmospheric conditions, in general, and major storms, in particular, can greatly affect radio reception.

Example: This is quoted from various sources on the Internet...therefore it must be true 😁.

The Earth's atmosphere can affect radio frequencies in a number of ways, including:

Radio window
The atmosphere acts as a barrier to most of the electromagnetic spectrum, but some frequencies can pass through. The radio window is the range of frequencies that can pass through, from about 5 MHz to 30 GHz.

Microwave frequencies
Atmospheric gases absorb radio waves at microwave frequencies, which can reduce the range of radio communication systems. Below 20 GHz, water vapor is the main cause of atmospheric attenuation.

FM radio
Rain and high humidity can affect FM radio signals. Water droplets in the air can scatter and absorb radio waves, which can weaken the signal and lead to static. High pressure can also affect FM radio signals, and some recommend waiting for the weather to change.

HF radio
HF radio can be affected by a number of atmospheric conditions, including:
  • Earth's magnetic field: Protons guided by the Earth's magnetic field can collide with the upper atmosphere near the poles, creating an enhanced D-layer that can block HF radio communication.
  • Auroral displays: Electrons during auroral displays can enhance other layers of the ionosphere, which can disrupt radio communication. This is most likely to happen at night in the polar regions.
  • Solar output: Changes in solar output can affect the maximum usable frequency, which is the highest frequency that can be used for communication. Software tools can help users account for solar cycle events and allocate the best frequencies for different times of day.
  • Thunderstorms: Atmospheric noise from thunderstorms can interfere with HF radio.
AM radio frequencies (medium wave (MW) band) are affected by atmospheric conditions, including humidity, temperature, pressure, wind, clouds, and precipitation:

Humidity
Can cause signal loss, reduced strength, refraction, and changes in air density. Higher humidity levels can reduce the distance AM signals can travel.

Ionosphere
The ionosphere's ionized layers can interact with AM radio signals' long wavelengths, causing significant changes in propagation from day to night. The ionosphere can also reflect signals back into space, limiting the low-frequency end of the radio window.

Water vapor and carbon dioxide
These atmospheric components can absorb radio waves, limiting the upper limit of the radio window.

Wind
Can affect the refractivity index, which can lead to changes in radio signal propagation.

Clouds and precipitation
Can reflect, scatter, absorb, refract, and diffract radio waves.
 
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