RediLast 2900, AW 2600, AW 2900 Battery Unwrapping (w/ trustfire 2400 - post 50)

csshih

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I bought a couple redilast batteries to check out...

.. but since there have been a few people asking... :devil:

Here we are, some quick unwrapping pics of the RediLast 2900 Panasonic 18650!

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Shiny labels look good in person, but are really hard to take pictures of! There is a bare panasonic 2900mAh cell on top. note the length.

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the first step is removing the extra shiny label.

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a small incision is made to the battery with knife of choice (a spyderco in my case)

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said incision is expanded. cell look familiar?

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removing the outer layer.

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kapton tape -- not very necessary since the panasonic wrap is pretty thick, but an additional layer of protection is always good.

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the "button top" is actually welded to the top cap by a tab. interesting.
lights without button tops might not make good contact in lights with multiple batteries, or won't make contact on lights with physical reverse polarity protection.

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another view

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now for a look at the protection IC

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Disconnect the protection IC from + .. this isn't a shorting test ;)

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remove rubber shock ring from bottom of cell

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protection IC is revealed.. one of the more organized pcbs I've encountered.

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compared to a stock bare cell.. identical!

:wave:

alright! time for the 2600 mAh cell!!


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here's your standard, if not a bit beat up, aw 2600mAh cell.

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label removal, as usual

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cover your eyes! it's showing some skin! :duh2:

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the shock protection / spacer for the IC is made of plastic.. not rubber, hm...

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my hands are *not* photogenic!

I cannot identify this cell from the markings on it. H78A 5AG11 <- perhaps that is a date code.
the other side of the cell has A5D9.. or similar.. the ink is smeared.

keeping the ball rolling, a brand spankin' new 2900 mAh cell next!

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the usual cell lineup

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label removed

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comparing tops of the AW and redilast -- the aw top does not protrude.

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comparing bottoms. the aw has 3 protruding points, while the redilast is gold colored -- perhaps plated.

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oops -- not so precision opening :(

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showing the tab to the protection IC

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shrink wrap taken off -- bare cell underneath! makes for a skinnier cell I assume.

ah yes, the cell is labeled - 84A 94C 228

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this kind of design scares me a bit more -- a tiny bit of kapton tape to prevent shorting!

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tape and tabs ripped off -- shock protection is a plastic ring. -- perhaps less shock resistant?

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comparison of the tops -- they appear identical, so I believe they are real.

and finally, close up pictures of the PCBs

first, the redilast
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now, all 3 at once as I managed to capture most of the details!
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Re: RediLast Battery Unwrapping

Thanks for the pics. How about AW ones?:D
 
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OooOo... don't have any of those.. I bought from redilast because he was relatively close (in cali) and had japanese protection ICs.. they look nice :)
 
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Oh good you saved me a cell! I'm so glad to see this, since I was just about to do the same with a spare while currently running CBA-II discharge tests. Great detailed photos too!. Any closeup details on the PCB & components? Thanks for the expose. I consider this as good news to confirm as stated that it is the exact quality cell as being used by AW and elsewhere. Quality is quality.

lovecpf
 
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If you look closer to the panny cell in the negative end, there is expose of the bare metal and thus kapton tape is necessary.
 
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thank you for pointing it out! :oops:

trying to take macro shots now... which is hard as I don't have the cheapo zoom/macro lens at my dorm.
 
Re: RediLast Battery Unwrapping

Your such a tease unwrapping the cell. Anyway, thanks for the detailed unwrapping/review. Might getting them later.
 
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Thanks for doing this cssih - nice to see the quality of the build.

Some have suggested that the cells might have been reclaimed cells (based on nothing more than apparent aversion to a new company entering the marketplace) - the abscence of solder tab marks confirms this.

It's also nice to see the button top soldered as well - others have suggested button tops could move about and affect the integrity of the cell.

I've been very happy with my Redilast 18650 2900mah cells which have already been through some pretty demanding use and perform idetically to my plain Pany NCR's but with the added safety net of the protection circuit - which I might add has tripped reliably @ 2.5v on the two occasions I've let them get down that far.
 
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Thank you for doing this.

Any chance you will do the same for the new AW 2900 cells?

I am curious to see if there is a difference in the protection install and if there is any noticeable difference in the actual protection circuit board, shock ring and etc...
 
Re: RediLast Battery Unwrapping

Thank you for doing this.

Any chance you will do the same for the new AW 2900 cells?

I am curious to see if there is a difference in the protection install and if there is any noticeable difference in the actual protection circuit board, shock ring and etc...

Ditto! This would be the true "tail of the tape" between the trusted AW brand and these new cells. So far, I like my new Redi 2900s.

All of CPF will be watching!
 
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cssih - do you have a paypal account I could make a donation to to enable you to purchase an AW 2900mah cell for dissection?
 
Re: RediLast Battery Unwrapping

So i understand the AW2900 also uses this panny cell but what about the AW 2600 and 2200mah, which cells do those use?
 
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cssih - do you have a paypal account I could make a donation to to enable you to purchase an AW 2900mah cell for dissection?

:thinking: anyone in the states that happens to have a cell to spare? that'd be faster, and cheaper than getting a single cell shipped from china!

So i understand the AW2900 also uses this panny cell but what about the AW 2600 and 2200mah, which cells do those use?

hrm.. I have a 2600 on hand.. but not a 2200..I have 30 minutes before class.. time to pop 'er open!

oh, and pcb shots are on hold until I get a better pic. :ohgeez:
 
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This was in my AW 2600 :duh2:
(joke)
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Oh good you saved me a cell! I'm so glad to see this, since I was just about to do the same with a spare while currently running CBA-II discharge tests. Great detailed photos too!. Any closeup details on the PCB & components? Thanks for the expose. I consider this as good news to confirm as stated that it is the exact quality cell as being used by AW and elsewhere. Quality is quality.

lovecpf

Can't wait to see the CBA results!
I'm also very happy to see the RediLast unwrapped.

who is Caroso?
 
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