SHOOT OUT IV

[seery]

Re: SHOT OUT IV

One suggestion... let's try not to quote with pictures. Makes the thread much easier to view.

...and better for us dial-up users stuck in a time capsule! :mecry:

 

[toby_pra]

Great beamshots! :D

 

[larryk]

Excellent job with the beam shots as usual. Thanks to all that made it possible. I would sure like to attend one sometime.
I still want the Locator...

 

[LuxLuthor]

Looks like a fabulous shootout. It will be great to see links to larger pix, and distance landmarks, and display of lights used. Thanks for posting intitial summary! This must have taken quite a while to do this many lights!

 

[Patriot]

The little pics look good and it's great to see everything labeled. I noticed that there were three K3500 pictures and two P1 pictures. It this because of multiple unit samples or because of intentional duplication?

I really like the location that you guys picked and I'm enjoying studying the initial pictures.

Thanks Jeff and all the others who made this happen.

 

[Flashanator]

That Locator just makes me want a HID monster more then ever. :drool:

Looks like the blitz is getting weak. Need somthing more powerful:nana:

Nice 1000w.:naughty:

 

[Border]

Great pics!

Third beamshot is labeled Enzlite - could this be the Eznite?

 

[BVH]

If only the Locator were hand-carryable. 20 lbs of light with no handles and 2 each, Group 24 SLA's does not make it convenient.

For some reason, the term "Diamond-white" came to mind when describing the lamp color when I saw the thumbnails last night. That's what it reminds me of. It's interesting that the box the lamp comes in indicates a color temp of 3900K but it seems to me closer to a very bright 4800K to 5000K.

We didn't do a group light shot. Too many lights, not enough table space and we needed to get the show on the road and get shooting.


Need to link to this thread from within the existing sticky.

 

[Flashanator]

So what is the Xeray80?

Looks pretty tough. Mod? overdriven ballast?

 

[DM51]

Superb! I'm adding this to the "Threads of Interest".

 

[mtbkndad]

The first Polarion PH 40 shot in Mr Ted Bears contact sheet has light coming from a secondary source. If you look at the wide angle shot you will notice that the entire left side of the photo is brighter. It is more noticeable in my shots so I tossed it.
When I post I will only have the one PH 40 shot.
I will post in another thread like I did with the Christmas shootout.

Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave:

 

[BlueBeam22]

Amazing beamshots!

The 300 watt BlackHawk Locator's HID is my favorite, it looks like it is definitaly the most powerful light in the group.

And the N30 looked amazing, I have changed my mind about what light I'm going to get next year, I was going to get a Titanium Mega Illuminator, but now I'm going to get the Amondotech N30 for sure.

The PH50 looked like it was putting out more light than the 50 watt Xeray, but maybe it just has a wider beam.

The BarnBurner really shined, I like the Xeray spotlights very much.

EDIT:

I just found out the Volcano is a modded "BIG BEAM" spotlight, it is very impressive!

 

[BVH]

Since we didn't do a group shot of the lights, here's some pics of my contribution to the shoot. Maybe the other participants would do the same? Especially, JetSkiMark with his many custom, old modded lights.

Clockwise from lower left: Amondotech illuminator (3152), LarryK14 600 Watt, Barn Burner 80 Watt, Yellow Jacket, (from Lips) N30, Super Light, (Form Lips) Locator, Black Widow, (from Lips) Microfire K3500, (from Patriot36) Mag 2d, (for reference) Eznite, Cyclops 15 MCD, Costco 80 Watt

Yellow Jacket, Superlight & N30

Adamlau's lights

 

[windstrings]

Amazing beamshots!


The PH50 looked like it was putting out more light than the 50 watt Xeray, but maybe it just has a wider beam.

I think the Polarions have their beam "chopped off" at the top so all the light is put down on the ground where you need it.... an engenius engineering feat with the lens..... unless you look at something in the distance that shows objects up high to see, its hard to tell... like a cliff mountainside or such or looking down into a canyon onto the adjacent side.

They make maximum use of their lumens on the playing field rather than up in the air.....a good compromise as long as your on flat ground of sorts.
I suppose that could work against you for some applications like coon hunting etc, but for most applications, its probably a good tradeoff.

These lights are so strong now I suppose it would be a real challenge getting the beam in the exact same spot for all of them.. almost like sharp shooting, except each beam characteristic is different making it even harder.

I think polarion does a good job of balance between spill and distance for a fixed lens.

 

[Patriot]

I think the Polarions have their beam "chopped off" at the top so all the light is put down on the ground where you need it.... an engenius engineering feat with the lens..... unless you look at something in the distance that shows objects up high to see, its hard to tell... like a cliff mountainside or such or looking down into a canyon onto the adjacent side.
They make maximum use of their lumens on the playing field rather than up in the air.....a good compromise as long as your on flat ground of sorts.
I suppose that could work against you for some applications like coon hunting etc, but for most applications, its probably a good tradeoff.

Windy, it's just an optical illusion cause by the large corona. The bulb and reflector throws an evenly spread beam. The Polarion's corona appears large on the ground in front of you so the user/observer expects to see it above also. If the next closest thing above the main plane of the ground is over 100 yards away, it's not illuminated brightly because the corona doesn't throw well (compared to the collimated portion of the beam).


Here is a generic, underexposed image of the PH50 beam at 15 feet next to the 15mcp Cyclops.

As you can see, the beam is fairly uniform and actually the top of the beam is a little brighter than the bottom. I do like the beam shape and appreciate that although it can throw fairly well, it's also a useful working beam. I definitely don't get tunnel vision when using this light. It fills the peripheral vision very well. :)

 

[Patriot]

mtbkndad
The first Polarion PH 40 shot in Mr Ted Bears contact sheet has light coming from a secondary source. If you look at the wide angle shot you will notice that the entire left side of the photo is brighter. It is more noticeable in my shots so I tossed it.
When I post I will only have the one PH 40 shot.
I will post in another thread like I did with the Christmas shootout.

I'm been staring, on and off, at the PH40 wide angle shots for several minutes and I still can't relate to or see the second light source that you've mentioned. Maybe as you said, it would be more obvious in your own shots. If so, I'd love to study them.

Thanks

 

[windstrings]

Windy, it's just an optical illusion cause by the large corona. The bulb and reflector throws an evenly spread beam. The Polarion's corona appears large on the ground in front of you so the user/observer expects to see it above also. If the next closest thing above the main plane of the ground is over 100 yards away, it's not illuminated brightly because the corona doesn't throw well (compared to the collimated portion of the beam).
vision very well. :)

ok.. I can buy that... I just remember on some shootout someplace back who knows where now, that it almost looked like my HID lights on my prius how they are chopped off at the top when on low beam... its actually a reflector that moves inside the lamp to give it that effect.
But I think your right, its the corona is what I'm talking about mostly... I think that spreads on the ground a little more than normal because they took it from the top.... at any rate.. I'm not a polarion expert, nor do I have one although its a very classy light.... I'll stick with my BB.

 

[adamlau]

PH50 vs. Xe75

Canon SD1000
ISO Setting: 100
Lens Aperture: F2.8
Exposure: 1 Second
Moon Illumination: 89 Percent
White Balance: Tungsten

Polarion PH50

XeVision XeRay 75W

Image Processing Notes

1. Minimal unsharp masking (T=75) applied to offset downsizing image blur.
2. Brightness levels increased in order to reveal over and underexposed details.
4. Lossless PNG was used as a compromise between maximum artifact and file size reduction.

 

[Patriot]

Nice Adam. It's always interesting to see how differently those two lights throw their beams.

Is there any chance you'd feel like gif-ing these and putting them in the PH50 thread? They would be a nice addition to the photo library over there.

 

[skalomax]

Cool shoot out.

Where was I? :ohgeez: