Spindle speed

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Hello all
I used to have a little book that told me the correct spindle speed and feed rate for turning different metals. Does any one know of a good online reference for this?? I have seemed to have lost my little book!
Thanks!
 
Funny...

I was just about to ask a similar question, and the reason I was going to ask had to do with my own experimentation.....

In the back of my owners manual, there's this chart. But doesn't seem as helpful as ideal as it doesn't cover various cutting conditions and modifiers for cutting tool type. (it mentions double RPM for carbide, lol....)

The chart you linked there gadget lover seems far more in line with my experience, which is basically that RPM only matters in so much as that you adjust feed rate accordingly for maximum cutting efficiency. I found in every experiment with milling mild steel that I tried yesterday, more flutes combined with more RPM always translates to allowing faster feed rates with good results. I ran a 5/8" end-mill at 1800 RPM with feed rates in the 5-20IPM (approximated) range with various depth of cut and width of cut and found that this works slick, dropping spindle speed down really only served to force me to reduce feed rates to keep the "chip" size down.

With what little experimentation I have done so far, I can already tell that it would be very valuable to achieve higher spindle speeds via a pulley upgrade kit.
 
spindle speed and feed rate for turning
Lathe turning is a single point operation, most of the time. One "tooth" or one "flute" engages the material, and that cutting point does all the work. Every turning op involves shearing or lifting material from the part, and these shear forces generate intense heat at the cutting tip. The heat being generated, the cutting tool material being used, and whether cutting dry or with flood coolant, all combine to determine SFPM :

sfpm = (rpm x part or cutter diameter) ÷ 3.82

HSS tooling is the least tolerant of heat, and must be run at the lowest SFPM. Somewhere around 100 SFPM is a good place to start. Chip color should be from no color at all, to just the lightest tan color. Go faster, get darker chips, and you've drawn the edge hardness so much that the point becomes blunt, stops cutting, and starts rubbing.

Cobalt tooling allows higher speeds, as cobalt has a much higher red hardness. A popular brand is Cleveland Mo-Max Cobalt:

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It's sometimes called M33 or M42 (because of the moly content), and contains about 8% cobalt. When Cleveland patented the process, it was the first successful molybdenum-tungsten high speed steel - now referred to as cobalt. It can be run about 50% faster than plain HSS, and will tolerate chip colors to dark brown without a problem.

Carbide tooling is the next step up, and will run twice as fast as HSS. You can buy ground carbide inserts (which have to be sharpened & resharpened):

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You can also buy tools that use carbide inserts:

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When these get dull, turn the insert around or flip it over for a fresh edge. Some coated inserts will produce blue chips all day long & show little wear.


As far as setting DOC (depth of cut) and feed, the machine horsepower will limit that. Experiment with different settings to find the ones that work best. Carbide inserts always have recommended settings in the company information.
 
So just to check I'm reading the equation and table right...
I'm using aluminium thats 2inches in dia. and picked 1000 sfm from the table.
So...RPM = SFM X 3.82/Diameter
RPM = 1000 x 3.82/2
Therefore my RPM should be 1910. That seems pretty quick to me! Then again, I last used a lathe 10 years ago and we only used HSS and turned 316 stainless.

Also, do I need to be concerned with the rest of the table? ie the 1/8, 3/16 etc columns.
Thanks for your replies Gadgetlover and precisionworks! I have just spent £100 on some indexable tools and want them to last. Oh yeah, i use WD40 as a cutting oil as I read it is good for aluminium. Anything better out there?
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