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TI-S27-Cx2 First Impressions

Codeman

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Now that a few of us are getting our S27-Cx2's, I thought I'd start a thread for us to discuss the pro's and con's of the new design changes.

At first, I thought I wouldn't like the varying diameter ribs on the body. The ergonomics in relation to the clip aren't as good as on the 27LT-S with it 3 flats. They might feel better without the clip, but I use clips regularly. I do like that they are deep - that definitely helps the grip. In fact, the deeper body ribs have one great advantage for me. They provide enough grip that I can easily operate the momentary-on switch with a tactical grip without straining - even with the stock boot. I like that! In fact, this is the best-feeling McGizmo light that I own when using a tactical grip.

The tint is also great - it's clearly the whitest of my Seoul LED's. I'd say it's just slightly cooler than my MR-X's X3T Lux V.

But, it's going to take me a while to decide if I'll EDC it. On the plus side, the round body makes it much more pocket-friendly for me when compared to the 27LT-S. I usually wear Khaki pants with deep pockets. The 27Cx2 seems to disappear almost as easily as my Ti-PD's.

On the downside, I simply cannot turn the head one-handed like I can with my 27LT-S or my other Ti McGizmo lights. Part of it's due to the Ti threads not being as smooth, and part may be due to the lack of flats on the body, but the more forward head flutes are a big contributor to my difficulties. A grip that feels natural with the varying-diameter body ribs leaves the head flutes too far forward to provide a solid "push-point" for my thumb. Even moving my hand more forward doesn't provide the same solid contact that my 27LT-S has. I definitely want my EDC lights to be operable with one hand while not requiring a grip adjustment. Unless the threads smooth out considerably, the S27-Cx2 may not make it into my EDC. Major bummer!

Don't get me wrong - This is a great light, just like every other McGizmo light that I have. I really like it's looks and what comes out of the business end. It just may not be a great light for me. Time will tell.

I'm sure a lot of folks won't have the troubles I do. I've got some nerve damage in my hand that has cut down my strength a good bit.

I really want to like this light, so I guess I've got to start working the threads and see if I can loosen her up some!

I'm curious to hear what other folks think of the changes.
 
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Still waiting on mine, but it will loosen up some. At least my Ti PD-S has loosed up since I got it.

Quick question, how does the rubber boot smell? :D
 
It smells lovely...loverly...lubberly...rubbery! :D

I'm quite congested at the moment, but I can still smell it! Even if it had no smell, I think you're gonna love this light!

Speaking of the boot...I had put a lumaPower M1 rubber boot cap on my XR19-C. At first, I thought it might be a bit too soft for my tastes. I was wrong. The stock boot seems incredibly stiff to me now. Glad I bought some extra M1 boots. Thanks to Bob_G for discovering the replacement, and to lumapower for selling me a few! :bow:

FYI - they smell just about as good as the boots McGizmo uses, but they don't have that Hawaiian pedigree!
 
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I'm a two-handed user on all my 27LT and HD45 lights. I'm going to have to break my habit and use the clicky option more. Should i leave it on high or low?

Will have to check out using 2 x RCR123 batteries in mine. I've had problems before where a light goes out in high with a bad lithium cell. Looks like it has a good charge until you draw high current.
-SF2
 
Before you try 2xR123, read this thread. It sounds like it may not be a good idea.

I've thought of another reason to like the 27Cx2's deep body ribs. If you need to lash your light to something, they will provide a great grip for some rope/paracord/whatever.

They also provide a bit of a "locking" mechanism when you put the light into a pocket. At least, with my khaki's they do.

Gotta go work on my threads some more...
 
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Nix that idea for now
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Codeman said:
Before you try 2xR123, read this thread. It sounds like it may not be a good idea.
starfiretoo said:
Will have to check out using 2 x RCR123 batteries in mine. I've had problems before where a light goes out in high with a bad lithium cell. Looks like it has a good charge until you draw high current.
-SF2
 
Ray,

Thanks for your observations and comments!! I am glad that someone brought that 2xR123 thread back to the forefront. I vaguely recalled something about this issue but my memory is just not very good and I think part of the fuzziness was based on the fact that a reason for this problem was never identified.
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As to what the nature of the problem is, I don't know but there is enough evidence to indicate to me that 2xR123 is not a good idea with the DBx2.
 
Codeman said:
So, PSM. How does it smell to you?
Purrrrrfect. :)

I did some rough measurements to see the different sizes of the ribs, very rough, so potential copycaters cant go by it (Unless they want a screwed up lihgt), plus I left off the inner rib diameter. :nana:

Here ya go, I was wondering this myself, so if you were wondering, here ya go....

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PoliceScannerMan said:
Purrrrrfect. :)

I did some rough measurements to see the different sizes of the ribs, very rough, so potential copycaters cant go by it (Unless they want a screwed up lihgt), plus I left off the inner rib diameter. :nana:

Here ya go, I was wondering this myself, so if you were wondering, here ya go....

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l33t mad skilz mang! ;)
 
PoliceScannerMan said:
Cool! A keyboard! :laughing:
It's the classic "cubicle photo"... quick, while no one's looking! I've actually never been seen taking photos of my flashlights while sitting in my cube... although I doubt anyone would really be all that surprised here! :shrug: :)

john
 
jch79 said:
It's the classic "cubicle photo"... quick, while no one's looking! I've actually never been seen taking photos of my flashlights while sitting in my cube... although I doubt anyone would really be all that surprised here! :shrug: :)

john

I'm glad I'm not the only one! :lolsign:
 
Cool John. Your birthday today?!? Happy Birthday! My twin brother's birth day is today as well!
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McGizmo said:
My twin brother's birth day is today as well!
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:thinking: :shrug: :wave: That's our Don!

Indeed it is Don - and I have to say - I couldn't have imagined a better present!!! :naughty:

john
 
I finally got around to replacing the stock switch boot with one that's designed for the LumaPower M1 (see Bob_G's thread for more info on it). When I did this for my XR19-C, I simply cut the boot's internal post off flush. For my S27-Cx2, though, I decided to lower it in steps. Once I got it cut down just enough to prevent the post from pressing down on the switch on its own, I had turn it into a hairtrigger light. A mere 5 oz was enough to activate momentary on. I decided to take a little more off of the internal post, and ended up liking it with 8 oz of resistance. Approximately 1/16" of the internal post needed to be left on the boot to reach 8 oz. As an added bonus, this also gave me the ability to latch on one-handed when using a tactical grip. Woo-hoo!

So, how light is 8 oz? Well, the bare switch only needs 2 oz of pressure to activate momentary on. The stock boot requires approximately 3.5 lbs. The flush cut M1 boot on my XR19C requires 17 oz. At 8 oz, my M1 boot-equipped S27-Cx2 has a buttery-smooth, slightly louder, switch that really makes the light a joy to use! :D

I wouldn't recommend such a hairtrigger for anyone that's using their light in tactical situations. For me and my non-tactical use, though, it's a perfect fit for my hairtrigger Kilroy switch. A measly quarter turn is enough to go from lock out to high.

Also, my threads have now smoothed out enough that I can turn my light from high to low to off with just one hand. Hopefully it with smooth out some more.

The more I used the light, the more I like the new body ribs. I worry far less about dropping it than I do my TI-PD's and my 27LT-S.

If my threads do smooth out enough to allow my to go from locked out to low to high one-handed with just my thumb, I will have found the closest thing to my perfect EDC light as exists. At least until Don comes up with something new... :D
 
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