Unprotected cells (& my 1st post btw)

[alita22000]

hello Ladies & Gentlemen,

well, it's my 1st post here ... and i ordered my first RAW-NS (guys you're dangerous, i CAN'T read this forum without buying something ! and something's telling me it's just the beginning ,the WEE is sooooo ... cute )

now, i have a question : i have both PROTECTED and UNPROTECTED 14250 cells, can i use the unprotected ones in the RAW ?


& Thank you for making such nice flashlights

 

[Tim W]

:welcome:

i have both PROTECTED and UNPROTECTED 14250 cells, can i use the unprotected ones in the RAW ?

To answer your question, YES.

Now, the more important question: WHERE ARE YOU GETTING PROTECTED 14250'S????


Tim

 

[alita22000]

sorry, i mean "i will have both protected & unprotected cells"

i already have unprotected 14250s and i saw here : http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=190715
in the RAW-NS description : "Runs on a 250mAh 14250 protected Li-ion"

i thought that the RAW come with a protected 14250 & i wondered if my unprotected 14250 cells would work ....


& thank you for the quick reply ^^

 

[orb]

:wave: & Welcome alita22000
This is an error : "Runs on a 250mAh 14250 protected Li-ion" Tut Tut Mike.
This is correct : . Runs on a 250mAh 14250 Li-ion cell
Sorry for any confusion.
As of yet there is not a 14250 protected cell available.
:thanks:

 

[alita22000]

ok thank you

(but i should have done some research before posting, sorry )

 

[Tim W]

(but i should have done some research before posting, sorry )

That's OK.

Got my hopes up a bit, that's all.:sigh:


Now, for the sake of your wallet, forget you ever found this place!!!

Tim

 

[MikeSalt]

This is an error : "Runs on a 250mAh 14250 protected Li-ion" Tut Tut Mike.
This is correct : . Runs on a 250mAh 14250 Li-ion cell

Tut tut to you too Mr Cheetham . Here is the source of that information...

[quote="raw_manual_2.pdf...Section 9b]Newer Raw series torches are shipped with protected Lithium Ion batteries, although they are
also designed to work with the appropriate unprotected cell.[/quote].

I assume that you meant to say that only the RCR2 cells had become protected. But in saying the 'Raw series', it implied to me that ALL flashlights carrying the 'Raw' moniker had the new cells. Which is right?:thinking:

 

[MikeSalt]

This part of the manual requires ratification. In the Raw NS/Ti/Al, the cells are unprotected. I await confirmation with regard to the RCR2 cells.

Personally, I prefer unprotected. The Raw NS/Ti/Al is all about simplistic reliability. With no protection circuit in the cell, the most complex component is the emitter itself. Typically, a low part count signifies excellent reliability. Not only is my Raw Ti my EDC, it is also my dependable companion when my life depends on a flashlight that simply works.

 

[Jay R]

If you put a protected cell in straight off the charger it will probably cut out if you put straight onto full power. Either run on low for a few mins or take it off the charger and leave to 'rest' for a hour.

 

[Tim W]

... In the Raw NS/Ti/Al, ... cells are unprotected. I await confirmation with regard to the RCR2 cells.

Can't speak for what is currently shipping, but last spring when I got my RAW aluminum it came with a protected AW cr2.

If you put a protected cell in straight off the charger it will probably cut out if you put straight onto full power.

:duh2:Mine don't. I've taken it straight (well, with-in a couple minutes) from charger to light with no problems. This is with both an Orb and a sure-fire M2 with cree-drop in. I think you'd have to be pulling a lot more current than any Orb is likely to before you'd have this problem.

Tim

 

[Edwood]

Yeah, whatever happened to the run of protected cells from AW? Did we ever reach the minimum order needed?

-Ed

 

[Jay R]

I think you'd have to be pulling a lot more current than any Orb is likely to before you'd have this problem.

Tim

It's been a topic of a number of posts in the past and happens fairly often on the three Orb Raws I have though thinking again, I have had them for a while now and they have Luxeon III and K2 in them. The Orb ships with a Cree nowadays and it probably isn't a problem with the lower current draw so just ignore what I said.

 

[MikeSalt]

Ok, I have the definitive word from Rob on this one. 10180 (Wee) and 14250 (Raw NS/Ti/Al) are unprotected the later RCR2 (Raw) cells are protected. Hope that clears it all up.

 

[alita22000]

i received my RAW-NS 160/20 today !!! i spent the whole afternoon playing with it .... awesome quality & incredibly bright now it's my new EDC flashlight :

thank you rob :thumbsup:

 

[MikeSalt]

Nice little EDC collection there. My two favorite EDC manufacturers, Lummi and Leatherman.