UPDATE: 6V regulated battery carrier for your 2D hotwire (sorry, misinformation)

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****UPDATE**** Apparently the pack I received in my officerlite was a prototype that was accidentally sent out with this light. My pack indeed has an LVR in it, but the standard battery carrier has no LVR. In my excitement I shared this in this thread only to find out my pack is not available. I am very sorry to anyone who may have ordered one due to my misinformation. The standard is wired in series and delivers 12V without any circuitry. It is exactly like the one in the Shoppe. Again, my appologies for the misinformation. :(




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I'm not sure these have been mentioned before here on CPF, but there is an 8AA-2D battery pack that has one of Willie Hunt's LVR3 incorporated in it (read more about the LVR here: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~willie/lvr.html ). It has the soft start feature, 6V constant output, and flashes when batteries are low. TMK, it has the large FET that can handle up to a 10 Amp load with an input voltage of up to 14V. The cells are in series, so you are limited to AA lithium, alkaline, NiCd, or NiMH unless you rewire it. I've been using eneloops in mine and have successfully powered a Phillips 5761 for 32 minutes. I imagine it would have similar results with the ROP hi. I got about 35 minutes on the MN21. It would probably run about 3 hours on a M*g 5 cell lamp if someone preferred that setup. It would probably be a good host for overdriving some sturdy lower voltage super bulbs, though I haven't experimented with any.
I suppose this won't be exciting to everyone since it is limited to 6V, AA's, batteries have to be removed for charging, and it may require your light to be bored out, but I still think it a nice find. It is made by Lightingpro.org and is the battery stick to their Officerlite flashlight. It can be had for $28 shipped: http://www.lightingpro.org/accessories_parts.php Do not confuse this with their Powerstik, which is only regulated at 3.6V and uses a less robust LVR. Just thought some of you may like to know.
 
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Re: 6V regulated battery pack for your 2D hotwire

Hmm, neat! I have an older (larger bore) 2D mag that I've been looking for something to do with to make it useful. I had decided to ROP-low it for general household use with a couple of the kai battery holders, this might be even better. I suppose the multilevel stuff works by external momentary interruption to power, as in the stock mag switch would properly both activate it and change the levels?

Can you take a caliper and measure the pack with the eneloops in it as in the picture above and post the largest diameter you find?

Really, 6.0V regulation? hmm, 7.2 would be better, but 6.0 I'd take for a general purpose household wife-using light.

~Dougk

EDIT: Typo.
 
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I don't believe Lightingpro has this board configured for push button multilevel outputs. I own the officerlite, and it has an additional circuit board for the switch to access the different levels, I'll have to study Willie's pdf file again. Sorry, I don't have a caliper, but the diameter looks about 34mm.
 
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Strange, the spec sheet for the Officerlite lists: "Bulb - Halogen 4.5 volt (0.5 amp standard; 0.9 amp, 0.27 amp options)" vs. the Power Stik: "Bulb - Xenon 3.6 volt (0.5 amp, 0.9 amp)" :thinking: I would've expected the Officerlite carrier to overdrive bulbs for single Li-ions (3.7-4.2v) well, but 6v would kill those.
 
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Yeah, if you connect this pack directly to those bulbs they will blow (already tried it). There is a secondary circuit board in the officerlite that accesses the multiple levels of light and it must also be pushing the voltage down to about 4.5V (why lightingpro does this, I don't know). The battery pack is labeled for 6V though.
 
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Looking further that looks identical to the 8AA ->2D carrier at the sandwich shoppe:

http://theledguy.chainreactionweb.com/product_info.php?cPath=48_56_73&products_id=590

My guess is that the driver is the circuit board you see in the light body attached to the switch, and the battery carrier is just dumb.

EDIT: what voltage do you get at the terminals of the battery pack? my guess is the full voltage of whatever cells you stuff in there, meaning also that the regulator would be in the light and not in the pack.

~Dougk
 
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Re: 6V regulated battery pack for your 2D hotwire

I can't measure the voltage because I don't have a fluke voltmeter. Just a standard voltmeter can't measure PWM, the readings are all over the place (that's what clued me in that it was regulated in the first place). No, this is not the battery carrier at the shoppe, that one looks the same but is only in series, no LVR. This pack soft starts the bulb (you can see it ramp up) and holds it steady at 6V the whole time. When the batteries are depleted, it flashes until the batteries are dead. I suppose I could remove the shrinkwrap to see exactly what LVR is there, but it will be a few days before I have mine back again.

I tested other lamps I had on hand with this, a P60 for over 2 hours, several 4.8V PR lamps (which burned out after 3-4 hours), as well as the Phillips 5761 and SF MN21. I really don't think it possible to be DD since it is wired in series.
 
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Re: 6V regulated battery pack for your 2D hotwire

Can you use this with a ROP? Currently using a 6AA to 2 D.
 
Re: 6V regulated battery pack for your 2D hotwire

Hi Lux,

May I know if you have any custom battery to run the Phillips 5761 at about 7V regulated in a 2D host?
 
Re: 6V regulated battery pack for your 2D hotwire

IcantC, yes, it should work fine with your ROP and make the bulb last longer over time. It might not drive it quite as white as your 6AA adapter, but it won't dim at all, it will be the same brightness the whole time. I haven't tried any ROP lamps with it yet (I'll have to wait until I meet up with a buddy flashaholic to compare).
 
Re: 6V regulated battery carrier for your 2D hotwire

So what would be the best bulb to use with this? Is there a bulb out there ideally suited to this battery packs regulation?
 
Re: 6V regulated battery carrier for your 2D hotwire

****PLEASE READ THE UPDATE TO MY FIRST POST****Admittedly I haven't experimented much with it, but any lamp that can handle 6V on Lux's thread should work with this pack: http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179748

Ideally I was thinking of the Phillips 5761 as a nice candidate for this pack, but it should also be good with ROP Hi, ROP Lo, WA1160, WA1183, MN21, 5 cell PR lamp, etc.
 
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