What is the actual output of U2 on high?

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That 100 lumens for two hours can't be right. Some of their other lights are putting out 200 for 2 hrs. What would you say it actually is? I'm asking cuz I am wondering how an XPG would do in there. I'm surprised SF hasn't updated their numbers on that light yet. The L5 is the same way.
 
To me it looks to be around 150 lumen and I would love to see a 200+ lumen U2, that is right at the top of my wish list. I worry what a XPG would do to the throw in this light.
 
You can put MC-E instead of Luxon V. It will have a lot of light. I'll mod mine soon this way.
MIke
 
Which U2? The original Lux version or the current Seoul P4 version?

I have the P4 version and have measured 915mA drive current on high. The tail current draw was about 0.7A with 2x123A, consistent with 2h run time.

Referencing the P4 datasheet, T bin might deliver about 180-200 emitter lumens at 915mA drive current. A U bin P4 might range from 200-230 emitter lumens. Subtracting 20% for reflector/optical losses gives about 140-160 OTF lumens for T bin and 160-180 OTF lumens for U bin.

If you are going to do an MC-E swap, you'll probably want to do it with the Lux version of the U2 if you plan to wire the MC-E in 2S2P. However, since I don't have a U2 Lux version, I can't tell you what the heat sink looks like inside and what might need to be done to fit the MC-E. I can tell you that the U2 P4 version uses two centering ribs to hold the P4 in place. So you'd probably have to grind off those ribs to fit an MC-E for the U2 P4 version and wire the LED in 4P. For both U2 versions, you'll most likely need a shim to raise up the MC-E to the right focus height.

For an XP-G swap in a U2 P4 version, an XP-G on a 10mm diam, 2mm thick MCPCB puts the LED die at the right focus height. So no shimming necessary. You can either trim the soft aluminum MCPCB to fit between the centering ribs or grind off the ribs. If you grind off the ribs, you may have to do some re-working of how the vertical support/LED+ and LED- "struts" are soldered to the heat sink since the 10mm diam MCPCB will overlap the solder pads.

See this thread for some detailed photos.
 
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I have been EDCing the Seoul P4 U2 for a while now it has to be way over 100 lumens. Here is a beamshot of it.

100_5565.jpg


Light-reviews.com has it measured at 187 lumens. http://www.light-reviews.com/surefire_u2/
 
I have 2 of the U2A's and mine are roughly as bright as my Ra Clicky's at the 170 lumen burst level. I love the U2A but I do wish for the hotspot to be a little bit bigger; I loved the hotspot from the Lux V version and it would have been freakin' perfect if it did not have a donut and had longer runtimes.
 
I mod'ed mine with an XP-G R4, for an estimated 300 emitter lumens, or perhaps 240 OTF lumens. I might switch over to an R5 to get an additional 20-30 lumens.
 
Bump with definitive answers.

A late model LuxV U2 that I had measured at 118 lumens on high.
Another (older) U2 was putting out 105 lumens.

A U2A measured at 163 lumens on primaries, and at 138 lumens on a 18650.
After being modded with an XPG R4, the same light put out 255..260 lumens - both on primaries and on a single li-ion (no difference is probably due to lower Vf of the XPG).
 
There is a Thread here that measures lumens on such lights. You can use the Ctrl + F function to find it too.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=260659



Here is a stock one and a modified version using the stock driver and MC-E Warm swap.




Surefire U2 Ultra____________Stock__________2 Surefire CR123__________133.1______1 sec__________________________
__________________________________________________ _____________ 117.7______30 sec________________________
__________________________________________________ ______________122.3______1 min_________________________
__________________________________________________ ______________119.2______2 min_________________________
__________________________________________________ ______________117.7______3 min_________________________
Surefire U2 Ultra_________MC-E Warm________2 Surefire CR123__________351.5______1 sec____197________4,925_____
AaronM custom___________________________Uses Stock Driver________ 316.9______30 sec________________________
__________________________________________________ ______________309.2______1 min_________________________
___________________________________________1A at tail_____________ 308.5______2 min_________________________
__________________________________________________ ______________306.2______3 min_________________________
 
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