What's the brightest stock flashlight?

[fire-stick]

Excluding HID, what is the brightest stock production light.

Just the stick style lights, like a maglite, no spotlights.

HOLA's included as long as they are standard production.

Surefire M6 w/HOLA, Wolf-Eyes Rattlesnake M90-13V w/EO-13, G&P R500 Scorpion?


Thanks

 

[glockboy]

I like the Surefire 10X.

 

[defusion]

With incan's, i don't know of anything brighter then an SF M6.
Wiseled makes some multi-emited LED setups that put out alot of lumens, stock.
And well, HID's obviously.

 

[Size15's]

The mk1 eyeballs I have suggest that the 10X has the highest output of all the SureFire incandescents. There should be brighter (and significantly larger) incandescent flashlights out there(?)

 

[fire-stick]

Is the EO-13 rated in torch lumens?

What about the Surefire do they rate their lights in bulb or torch lumens?

 

[Strauss]

Is the EO-13 rated in torch lumens?

What about the Surefire do they rate their lights in bulb or torch lumens?

The EO-13 is rated in bulb lumens, while Surefire rates their lights in torch lumens.

I believe the Surefire 10x is the brightest incan that still remains in a "flashlight" form, followed closely by the Surefire M6 then the Wolfeyes 13V.

 

[Size15's]

The EO-13 is rated in bulb lumens, while Surefire rates their lights in torch lumens

Worse still, SureFire do not state the maximum or peak output from the torch, or even from the best of the bunch.
SureFire's ratings are based on what can typically be expected over the course of the runtime.
This is different for SureFire's regulated [LED] flashlights for which the output rating is based on the lower end of the output range of the tested products that have been sampled from production.

Al

 

[fire-stick]

Worse still, SureFire do not state the maximum or peak output from the torch, or even from the best of the bunch.
SureFire's ratings are based on what can typically be expected over the course of the runtime.
This is different for SureFire's regulated [LED] flashlights for which the output rating is based on the lower end of the output range of the tested products that have been sampled from production.

Al

Wow that explains why my other "100 lumen" flashlights have trouble holding their own against my 100 lumen surefire.

Anyone know about how many torch lumens the EO-13 is putting out?

 

[DM51]

The ratio is about 2/3, so the EO-13 would be ~450 torch lm. AFAIK Surefire and HDS are the only manufacturers whose ratings are in torch lumens, and as Size 15s explained above, SF's formula is probably even more conservative than that.

Mdocod has a very useful thread which includes "real" lumen figures here:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=161536

 

[mdocod]

to compare LF to SF, you have to re-rate LF lamp for the cell configuration chosen, then derate for torch lumens, for SF, you have to figure out how much it was before SF DE-rated it, then re-rate for cell choice. Then you have a useful estimation for comparison.