Why we use Sapphire

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Gransee

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A customer mistakenly sent us another company's flashlight in for repair...

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Often when a flashlight is dropped on a hard surface, the front bezel and the window take the brunt of the force. This is why we use a Titanium bezel and Sapphire window in our Arc6 and Titanium AAA.


peter
 
:eek:....:laughing:.....:ohgeez:

Whatchu gonna do, Peter?
 
What a great gesture it would have been to return the light with a new Sapphire lens...
 
This is also why lots of users have put SS or titanium bezel rings on their HDS lights (me included):D

Very nice of you to send it back for free Peter.

Sverre
 
Actually, Sapphire is more brittle and prone to crack than mineral lens. However, Sapphire is much more scratch resistant to mineral lens. See this quote from Flashlightlens I found in a very old thread:

I didn't feel like writing (gotta get the Post Office before it closes), so I found this out on the Internet:

How different materials compare:
Plexiglass, as you would expect, is the least expensive. It is also the least likely to shatter and the most likely to become scratched. Mineral glass, even though it has been hardened by a tempering process, is more likely to break than plexiglass. But it is also more scratch-resistant than that material. Synthetic sapphire is the most expensive glass crystal material and the most scratch resistant. Because it is so hard, it is also brittle, and shatters more easily than mineral glass or plexiglass.

Synthetic Sapphire:
It is a very hard, transparent material made of crystallizing aluminum oxide at very high temperatures. Chemically, synthetic sapphire is the same as the natural sapphire used in jewelry, but without the coloring agents that give the gemstone its various hues.

When it is heated, the synthetic sapphire forms round masses that are sliced into pieces with diamond-coated saws. These disks are then ground and polished into watch crystals. (One reason sapphire crystals are relatively expensive is that the tools required to make them are costly.)

Sapphire (whether natural or synthetic) is one of the hardest substances on earth. It measures 9 on the Mohs scale, which is a system for rating the relative hardness of various materials. (Diamond measures 10, the highest rating.) Watch crystals made of synthetic sapphire are often marketed as "scratch resistant", meaning they are very difficult - but not impossible - to scratch. Diamond can scratch them; so can man-made materials that incorporate silicon carbide, which, with a Mohs rating of between 9 and 10, is, like diamond, harder than sapphire. These materials are sometimes used to make simulated-stone surfaces for furniture or walls. The watch wearer should note that accidentally scraping a sapphire crystal against such a surface could cause a scratch.


As far as I can see from data I've found, the light transmittance of sapphire should be very close to a high quality mineral glass at around 95%.
 
Did the lens crack due to impact or shock? I am no expert but it looks like shock since there is no point of impact.
 
If lens/window failure is a concern, polycarbonate plastic is king...Just ask any Safety glasses manufacturer.

IIRC, HDS offered a lens kit, that included a replacement glass lens, and plastic lens for severe duty use.
 
Peter,

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Often when a flashlight is dropped on a hard surface, the front bezel and the window take the brunt of the force. This is why we use a Titanium bezel and Sapphire window in our Arc6 and Titanium AAA.

I am always glad to see people are still using our products 4 to 5 years after they were manufactured. I hope you told him we were the manufacturer when you sent him the light back. :)

Our newer designs offer nearly unbreakable lenses without titanium or sapphire. Of course, we offer both titanium and sapphire as options, just in case someone wants them. Here is a light that was repeatedly dropped 30 feet (9 meters) onto concrete, rocks and asphalt. After over 20 drops, we started throwing the light at concrete and rocks. After 45 minutes of abuse, we decided we had had enough. The light still works fine. Here is a photo:

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We have not seen a single broken lens since we introduced our new design over two years ago. And our customers have dropped the lights over 100 feet (30 meters) onto concrete and rocks without incident. One was dropped off a 13th floor balcony. One was dropped off a wind turbine. One was dropped off a radio tower. And I am sure there are other cases out there. :)

Henry.
 
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Our newer designs offer nearly unbreakable lenses without titanium or sapphire. Of course, we offer both titanium and sapphire as options, just in case someone wants them. Here is a light that was repeatedly dropped 30 feet (9 meters) onto concrete, rocks and asphalt. After over 20 drops, we started throwing the light at concrete and rocks. After 45 minutes of abuse, we decided we had had enough. The light still works fine. Here is a photo:


We have not seen a single broken lens since we introduced our new design over two years ago. And our customers have dropped the lights over 100 feet (30 meters) onto concrete and rocks without incident. One was dropped off a 13th floor balcony. One was dropped off a wind turbine. One was dropped off a radio tower. And I am sure there are other cases out there. :)

Henry.

Cool! You should offer a "Destructive Testing" passaround over on the marketplace forum. That would be fun!
 
Cool! You should offer a "Destructive Testing" passaround over on the marketplace forum. That would be fun!

I agree, except that it would better if Peter agreed to a "destructive testing" pass around, with one of his Arc lights...Looks like HDS already did their testing.
 
Here is some more info on plastic transparencies used in flashlights:

Styrene: Often used in cheap flashlights, it is usually molded and thus, may have poor optical qualities. It is the most brittle of plastics and it scratches easier. While not much of a concern to a flashlight user, it can yellow and haze if exposed to UV or short wavelength visible light.

Acrylic: Sold under the trade names Plexiglas, Lucite or Perspex (among others) it is more durable than styrene and has the best optical qualities of clear plastics. It has better scratch resistance than styrene or polycarbonate, but can have a hardened coating on it to improve scratch resistance even more. It lasts the longest under UV exposure.

Polycarbonate: Sold under the brand name of Lexan (among others) this is the toughest common clear plastic available and it can withstand higher temps than styrene or acrylic. It is a soft plastic in that it scratches easy so it may require a scratch resistant coating and it will yellow and haze in UV. It can be purchased with a UV blocking coating to make it last longer.

Now for my question: My new Quark claims to have a sapphire coated lens. How is the coating applied to the lens?
 
Now for my question: My new Quark claims to have a sapphire coated lens. How is the coating applied to the lens?
Just a wild guess, but it's probably vapor-deposition (like water condensing on a cold glass) or a quick dip in a bath of molten corundum (the base material for sapphires and rubies).
 
This will probably mean nothing to most people here, but I just realized that synthetic corundum is almost certainly the "transparent aluminum" that they used to talk about in the old Star Trek movies (particularly Star Trek 4). And it was invented in the 1830's. Whodathunkit? :thinking:
 
Stainless Steel rings ROCK as bezel rings. They take hell and back again better than Ti (less soft) and the Ti's advantages don't really work out as a ring.
Tungsten would be harder and less prone to scratches, but not sure if it would shatter
 
Rolex has been using synthetic sapphire in their Submariners & Sea Dwellers and I'm sure many other models for years. It's pretty amazing how strong it is and so similar to glass
 
Stainless Steel rings ROCK as bezel rings. They take hell and back again better than Ti (less soft) and the Ti's advantages don't really work out as a ring.

It has been my experience that 6-4 Ti has a much better modulus of elasticity than the marine grade stainless steels (300 series). The Ti can be deformed to a greater degree and "bounce" back to its original form relative to the stainless steels. Just an observation and I defer to those who know better.
 
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