XP-G R5 1xAAA Titanium Flashlights: IlluminaTi vs. Preon

EngrPaul

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Two flashlights that are very similar in cutting-edge LED technology, but somewhat different in execution.

Which one is for you? If not both, then maybe read comments from myself and others to decide.

First of all, let me post a picture of several "bare" metal flashlights in the first post. The second post, I will get to a head-to-head comparision of the IlluminaTi and Preon.

PLEASE NOTE: I paid full retail price for each and every one of these flashlights. The lights were NOT provided specifically for review, in fact the sellers were unaware of any intent to review when shipped.


Left to Right, also weight with eneloop and with accessories as pictured, also PWM frequency I measured on medium:
  1. Maratac AAA S/S, 35g, 200 Hz
  2. 4Sevens Preon Ti, 34g, 2406 Hz
  3. Fenix LD01 S/S (Polished+Old Fenix Lobster Claw), 55g, 1250 Hz
  4. IlluminTi XP-G, 36g, 990 Hz
  5. ITP A3 EOS Upgraded S/S, 44g, 180 Hz
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Now let me show a picture of the individual beamshots.

Locked exposure, color balance, and focus, 2m (6') from wall, light on camera.

Eneloop AAA, all fully charged the day before.

Maratac AAA (XP-E Q5):
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Preon I (XP-G R5):
Preon.jpg


Fenix LD01 (XR-E Q5):
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IlluminaTi (XP-G R5):
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ITP A3 EOS (XP-E Q5):
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Now I'll concentrate a little on our two competitors to satisfy your XP-G desire.

In all pictures, the Preon is on the left, and the IlluminaTi is on the right.

For the beamshots, some exposure adjustment is allowed. Without, low is too low and high is too high for photos. This shows that both lights have a nice spacing between levels.

The cells are eneloop AAA, I measured the OCV at 1.308 and 1.297. The slightly higher voltage I put in the Preon. Tailcap RMS current measurements are also included.

It seems like the Illuminati is slightlly more efficient. The PWM rate (see two post down) is lower, but not noticeably so. If half the PWM frequency results in better efficiency (comments welcome), I'd rather have it. It could also be my sample IlluminaTi's emitter has a relatively better efficiency than the sample Preon's emitter.

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LOW - Preon: 128 mA, IlluminaTi 89 mA
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MEDIUM - Preon: 260 mA, IlluminaTi 267 mA
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HIGH - Preon: 880 mA, IlluminaTi 851 mA
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Is there much of a difference between these lights? Not really if you look at beamshots alone. However, there is a lot more in the details.

Both flashlights are twisties as supplied by the manfacturer. The Preon has a clicky option if you spend the extra $, the IlluminaTi does not, with the advantage of shorter length.

The Preon has a gold-plated tail spring that is superior electrically, but some report the spring may fall out on a cell change. The Illuminati has a stainless steel spring that is not as good electrically, but I have yet to hear a report of a misplaced spring.

The IlluminaTi is heavily knurled with a rectangular pattern. It is possible to operate single-handedly, even with wet hands. For the Preon, it is more difficult because the surface is slippery smooth.

Both light have been reported to have gritty threads. Some usage and lube change will resolve this on both lights. I have inspected the threads on both lights, they are cut excellent and there are no issues on either. I find them consistent with other titanium lights I have owned.

Both lights are nicely engraved with manufacturer information. The Preon has serial numbers also laser engraved, this is only supposed to be done on early runs.

Both lights are shipped in presentation boxes with a custom-cut foam opening. Both lights came with a battery, 4sevens ships the Preon with a Duracell alkaline, Battery Junction ships theirs with an Energizer Lithium primary AAA, and also a good quality keychain squeeze light.

The major accessories to these lights are keychain and pocket clip attachments.

The Preon arrived with the clip attached, and the keyring attach was in the accessory bag. There is no keychain or split ring, just the attachment point that replaces the material thickness where the pocket clip was. For the Preon, you must choose one or the other. Changing from the pocket clip to the keychain attach requires removing the tailcap and o-ring, which is a greasy proposition. Great care must be taken when changing the pocket clip, because turning the clip around the body leaves a deep scratch (steel on titanium). A thick piece of paper is recommended, and replacing the clip at the same rotation will help to hide the as-delivered scratch.

The IlluminaTi has a drilled hole for the keychain. [Edit: Please see post #95 for an area of concern] The keychain is bright nickel plated steel, and very sturdy. It arrives attached, and in the package is held at a distance by the foam inside the box. After removal from the foam, the keychain split ring refuses to touch the body or tailcap, a nice design. The claw end of the keychain also avoids the highly polished areas of the light, landing only on the knurled section.

I have not personally attached the pocket clip on the IlluminaTi. [Edit: I have, please see post #97. From what I understand, it can be attached in either forward or backward direction. The keychain does NOT need removed to do this. However, it is reported that the clip interferes with tailstanding. Perhaps someone will clarify. [Edit: Some do, some don't. Due to similarity to ITP/maratec products, if your clip doesn't allow tailstanding try a swap with another clip. Also see post #97.

Both light have very well centered emitters, thanks to a molded centering device directly below the reflector. Both emitters are very clean. The tints of the samples I have are close, but the Preon is "greener". An aluminum reflector and glass lens sits up front. Both reflectors have texture (light orange peel)

The back end of both lights is interesting too. The 4Sevens has a generously sized "47" laser-engraved into the back. The IlluminaTi does not boast in the same way, it is mirror polished instead. Both tailstand quite well, although with the keychain attached, the IlluminaTi may require two tries.

The IlluminaTi gets the nod for size. It's significantly shorter, although I really don't know where an extra cm is going to cause difficulty in use.

The two lights are styled very differently. The Preon is shaped like a baseball bat, baseball fans will probably think it's cool. The Preon has a more "stripped, elegant" look, while the Illuminati is jeweled in appearance and yet a little more industrial. The Preon to me is much like the tail end of a Craftsman ratchet, shiny but not very interesting except for the Preon logo. The IlluminaTi looks like nothing else in particular.

I layed the two flashlights down in front of my wife, and asked her which one was better looking. She never saw either before. Without hesitation, she pointed to the IlluminaTi. I agree.

Which one would hold up better in use, finish-wise? My guess would be the IlluminaTi. The polished regions are recessed, and will likely remain polished. The Preon has lots of exposed surfaces to scratch. The Preon is also subject to accidental scratching from the pocket clip, unless you have the tailcap on really tight. I imagine the Illuminati will also get scratches from the pocket clip. I'd like to hear other's experiences.

Perhaps this wear issue will dictate which light you buy. If you want to shirt-pocket your flashlight, you'll probably want the Preon. But then again, you'll probably want the Preon 2 instead (2xAAA). I really like the 2xAAA format for the inside of a suit jacket, so I have a Preon 2 and enjoy it. But if you want a keychain light, the IlluminaTi will probably be for you; the Preon 1 is somewhat out of it's territory on a keychain.

If you want to go by performance, the IlluminaTi gets a slight nod. With slightly less current, slightly higher output, and better tint, there is no doubt the IlluminaTi is my better sample. The difference in PWM frequency is negligible in my opinion.

If you are looking for special modes such as strobe/SOS/beacon, the Preon provides, while the IlluminaTi does not. However, you must twist back more than a handful of times to get there. If you need the SOS mode due to an incapacitating situation, you may be SOL.

The price point is very close on the two lights at $55. Based on the beamshots in post #1, what you get for spending twice as much money over a Maratac or ITP is not only a titanium body, but also a broader beam. Do not expect a stronger hotspot, expect a broader hotspot.

If I had to choose only one, which would it be? Definitely the IlluminaTi. It's the more attractive, practical, efficient light for me. I'm not a pocket-protector type of Engineer, I'd rather carry my flashlight discreetly, then make a big show when I pull it from my pant's pocket. I like the ability to change modes single-handedly, and brush-off any small scratches that occur because they are not obvious.

Both flashlights feature my preferred L>M>H operating sequence.

Don't get me wrong, both lights are well done and deserving of your hard-earned cash. I'd just pick the IlluminaTi for my lifestyle.
 
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Much appreciated! Showdowns between these two have been eagerly anticipated.

Edit: Would also love to see some runtime numbers for the medium modes from these two.
 
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Runtimes may come later. These would take time because I have a manual setup and manual recording method. Hopefully the tailcap current readings I posted will allow you to make an estimatation until I do so, if I do so. ;)
 
I have both the Iluminati and the Preon I and I agree with everything Paul has said, he is spot on. I am waiting for the Ti clicky and Preon II body to arrive (who knows when?) to see if this gives the Preon enough additional functionality to warrant having both.
 
Thanks for the great comparison EngrPaul.

Now can you do an emitter swap on one of these?

:devil:

Swap to what? These are the best small emitters on the market! :twothumbs

Both heads are potted, I assume. :candle:
 
Swap to what? These are the best small emitters on the market! :twothumbs

Both heads are potted, I assume. :candle:

Gunga like myself is a neutral emitter freak, its about tint not absolute lumens (my Maratac SS with an XP-E Q3-5A) is still my No.1 go to AAA light)

Edit: Until I open up my Iluminati. :devil:
 
I'm of the opinion that small lights should have the maximum output per watt, regardless of tint.

Brighter lights should have better tint, because runtime is not as much of an issue, and eye strain or beam reflection becomes an issue.

I'll stick by my R5 preference over Q4 max for neutral white. And you know I love neutral white! :)
 
Different strokes for different folks! :wave: And that's why lovecpf.

Though I will say on a single AAA the iluminati has a better tint than the preon, waiting to see what the preon it looks like driven by two AAA's

Iluminati on left Maratac Q3-5A on right both on high (maratac has a 10440 in it so you can have your cake and eat it too)

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Thank you very much for the review, EngrPaul

When I first heard of both lights, I leaned towards the Preon. Then I saw the size of the Preon VS the IlluminaTi and I had second thoughts. I will be using the light on a keychain and prefer lower lows, durable finish, make it small and decent runtime. Looks like the IlluminaTi wins VS the Preon on all counts.

Guess what I'm getting for Christmas! :D
 
Here's a couple pictures to help you see the laser engraving used on the IlluminaTi.

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EngrPaul -- Thanks, that was great.
I have been "patiently" waiting for 4-Sevens to get the Al Preons in stock.
Two days ago I got tired of waiting and I placed an order for an IlluminaTi.
I love toys.

Do either of these lights have an audible noise/hum/whine?
 
EngrPaul -- Thanks, that was great.
I have been "patiently" waiting for 4-Sevens to get the Al Preons in stock.
Two days ago I got tired of waiting and I placed an order for an IlluminaTi.
I love toys.

Do either of these lights have an audible noise/hum/whine?

Neither one dies, nor does my Preon 2 Ti.
 
Ok, I bought the IlluminaTi, ITP A3 EOS SS and a ITP A3 EOS Titanium at the same time. The A3 SS was flawless from the get go and the A3 Titanium was also flawless but the action was a little stiffer. The IlluminaTi was basically dead on arrival. I tried the head on the other two bodies and got it to flicker a little but still no go. I then cleaned all threads on all 3 lights and relubed them along cleaning all contact points with DeoxIT including the springs. Still nothing. I then tightened the head down on the IlluminaTi and smacked it bezel down on a wooden butcher block. I then tried it again and it has functioned as it should ever since. Evidently something in the head was not making contact and the smack (bezel down) completed the electrical path that was not secure. The threads are nowhere as smooth as the ones on the ITP A3 Titanium but I am sure the will work in with time.

I don't think I will be getting a Preon as I like the form factor of my IlluminaTi better, it is functioning fine now after I taught it who was boss. :D The beam is all flood so I will be alternating with the ITP A3 EOS titanium which has more throw. I don't care about tail standing but I really like the center attachment for the splitring on the ITP for direct hang neck carry. :)
 
For what it's worth, my Ti Preon 2 emits a high-pitched whine on low and med modes, but is silent on high.
 

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