10 foot hot spot from 80 feet?

id like a light that THROWS a "perfect as possible' 'spill free' hot spot, of about 10 feet in diameter from about 80 feet away.

like this



anyone know of any lights that can do this?

I would recommend the Task Force 2C 150 lumen LED flashlight from Lowe's. It uses an optic instead of a reflector, which gives it a very tight, perfectly round spot that throws incredibly far. Its spill isn't very bright and won't even be noticeable on objects at a distance.

i have a P7 m*g, is it as easy as just buying an aspheric lens?

or is there more to it then that?


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waddup said:

i have a P7 m*g, is it as easy as just buying an aspheric lens?

or is there more to it then that?


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Oh sorry didn't see your last post when I posted. As for as a P7 using an aspheric lens. It's beam will be much larger then if it used a single die emitter "about 5-6 degrees", however it will still throw farther then stock. Also if you have a decently driven Maglite P7 the Task Force won't impress you:shakehead.

If you are just looking for an LED Light with the most throw, then I recommend you get the Stanley 5W LED spotlight $40 from Walmart. That light has over twice the throw of the Task Force, and I know of no non-aspheric LED flashlights at any price that could out throw it. Its beam is very tight and throws 300+ yards. Plus, it is very small and compact, and has decent runtime and great regulation.

Juggernaut, thank you for posting that information about the Task Force's beam angle; it is indeed very tight.

So you want a spot circle with NO flood out to the sides. I can't think of any light that does what you are looking for. First of all you are going to need a decently tight focused aspheric for a 10 foot spot at 80 feet distance. The problem you are going to have is that most are based off the XRE, which has a square shaped die and therefore will not get you a tight round spot like that.

+1 to everything kramer5150 stated, he is exactly right. I think the only kind of light that is going to give you the performance you are looking for is one with an optic, which would include aspherics if you are willing to have a light with a square beam.

How far do you actually need this light to throw? How many lumens minimum? I still highly recommend the Task Force 150 lumen.

Great point Juggernaut, and those are my thoughts as well. The Task Force will definitely be the best for giving him the beam profile that he wants, but it simply won't come near the power of some throwers. If he is looking for the longest throwing light possible for brightly illuminating objects at great distances, then the Task Force will not be powerful enough.

Regarding the Stanley LED spotlight, it should be directly comparable with some of the best know throwers such as the Dereelight DBS R2, Tiablo A10, Sunlight Eagle 8W, Jetbeam Raptor RRT-1, etc. I don't mean to say it will necessarily outperform any of them, I am just trying to give a general idea of its power class. I would say it is on ordinance with most 1 million candlepower halogen spotlights in terms of throw. A Tiablo A9 with an aspheric head upgrade should easily out throw all of these lights, however.

waddup said:

id like a light that THROWS a "perfect as possible' 'spill free' hot spot, of about 10 feet in diameter from about 80 feet away.

like this

anyone know of any lights that can do this?

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Well there is one light that I know of that has a beam just like that. This one.

LED Lenser lights may be capable.

defloyd77 said:

LED Lenser lights may be capable.

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maybe not, my P14's spot is nice and tight but isnt a perfect circle as in the pic OP posted

saabluster said:

Well there is one light that I know of that has a beam just like that. This one.

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hmmmmm

$400

or

the task force for $30 :thinking:

my spear clone could throw light a long way, but not the perfect circle.

im only playing with the idea, its very cool seeing a beam like that.:thumbsup:



pretty

BlueBeam22 said:

If you are just looking for an LED Light with the most throw, then I recommend you get the Stanley 5W LED spotlight $40 from Walmart.

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+1 for this recommendation. When I go camping this is the only light you need (just kidding, you need them all!!). But it is almost as bright as the Stanley 1 Million candle power light. Plus, for $40 you can't go wrong. I just spent way more (happily) on a tactical light for my sidearm, and clearly this is a beast in comparison when looking at the throw.

waddup said:

hmmmmm

$400

or

the task force for $30 :thinking:

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While the Arc Mania X6 Ostar cost $400 it is one of my dream lights:thumbsup: and if I had that money floating around I would buy one:twothumbs. However it has as perfect a round throwing beam as you will find. Also you have to understand the Task Force is rated at about 6,500 Lux, so there would be a huge difference in throw. That is the reason I don't believe you would be impressed with it next to your Mg P7, since EL's Mag P7 produces like 13,000 Lux. However if beam shape is not a problem the Tiablo A9 will produce a staggering 66,000 Lux:thumbsup:. However if you had the money for the X6 Ostar you might as well buy a DEFT, which is like "Saabluster will have to chime in" about 123,000-160,000 Lux:naughty:! Also your Spear clone should out throw the Task Force by a good margin "around 15,000-22,000 Lux."

waddup said:

i have a P7 m*g, is it as easy as just buying an aspheric lens?

or is there more to it then that?


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In a word yes. All you need is an aspherical lens. You can get this one for under $5.00 and it will work great. https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/242050

Now be aware that if you focus it too much it will cleanly project the square die of the emitter out the front. Most people dislike this effect with the P7 since it contains 4 emitters and you get a big "+" in the center of the focused beam. For this effect you really want a single die emitter. But if you back it a bit out of focus with your P7 and use a MOP reflector you will get the desired effect you are looking for. Reminds me of a stage spot light. The lens mention above is so inexpensive its worth just having imo. On a night with high humidity its fun to play with lenses because you can see exactly what's on going with the beam. With one of my P7 Mag builds I used a MOP reflector and a 300mm PCX lens from Surplus Shed to clean up the beam and make it throw better, but for the beam profile you are looking for you will need a 33mm - 70mm aspherical lens. Happy mods!

Juggernaut said:

While the Arc Mania X6 Ostar cost $400 it is one of my dream lights:thumbsup: and if I had that money floating around I would buy one:twothumbs. However it has as perfect a round throwing beam as you will find. Also you have to understand the Task Force is rated at about 6,500 Lux, so there would be a huge difference in throw. That is the reason I don't believe you would be impressed with it next to your Mg P7, since EL's Mag P7 produces like 13,000 Lux. However if beam shape is not a problem the Tiablo A9 will produce a staggering 66,000 Lux:thumbsup:. However if you had the money for the X6 Ostar you might as well buy a DEFT, which is like "Saabluster will have to chime in" about 123,000-160,000 Lux:naughty:! Also your Spear clone should out throw the Task Force by a good margin "around 15,000-22,000 Lux."

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You are right on with the Ostar vs Taskforce. No competition there. I have the Taskforce and it is not impressive to me at all. I think the Ostar does about 50,000lux

Last time I worked out the throw for the DEFT it came in at 156,000lux but I have made changes to the design that make it throw even farther. I need to redo those tests to see what it is now.

My Tiablo A9, with Tiablo aspheric lens throws a tight spot with hardly any noticeable spill. It is relatively inexpensive and might fill the bill. The A9 has a pretty tight spot without the lens, but then it has some spill. I like using the A9, without aspheric lens, because it is real easy on your night vision and works pretty well for general use.

Fulgeo said:

In a word yes. All you need is an aspherical lens. You can get this one for under $5.00 and it will work great. https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/242050

Happy mods!

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:twothumbs

thanks for reminding me,

i got one of those lenses about 8 months ago, and its been sitting in a drawer.

for now a perfect *squares* shape will do until i figure out the perfect circle.

im looking forward to darkness outside to see how this throws



does all the light come thru the lens or does some get reflected and stay trapped inside?