Agonizing !! its 4 am .....

Does SF(or any other mfgr) make a dual output light with gen 2 KL3 beam type ?!?! I want to make my supply of EDIT>72 SF 123s I got for Christmas last longer than my gen 1 tl-2 led is . ALL opinions and suggestions appreciated !

I don't have any details, but there's a prototype McE2S switch for C/M bodies that you could use, or you could slap a KL3 on an Aleph body/tailcap using an E>C adaptor. You can also buy or build an Aleph in whatever configuration you want and slap in a collimator lens. Otherwise, LED heads with a wide reflector might give you what you want (Aleph 3) on their own. (Yeah, you can see I'm a fan of the Aleph series. Head to the McGizmo sub-forum and learn, if you haven't already.)

Other options aside, you could just choose the stock KL3 on stock C/M body option and simply carry a good keychain-size light, perhaps with a lanyard for convenience. I love my Arc-AAA; there are other excellent options as well. The thing is, low-output, highly-focused lights have few applications; up close the spot is too small to be good for general use, and from a distance there just isn't enough light for anything other than signalling.

well, maybe the new Surefire AWOPS will have what you need... we'll just see when they come out.

-David

Get an aleph 2 cell body. Aleph 2 stage tail switch an e to c converter and you are in business.
Throw it all together and you have a 2 stage KL3 flashlight.
Or just look for a modded 2 stage switch to stick on your flashlight.
Yaesumofo

cheapo said:

well, maybe the new Surefire AWOPS will have what you need... we'll just see when they come out.-David

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AWOPS?

ditto.
AWOPS?
Do you mean the few DARPA lights that are in iraq? I don't think these will ever be commercialized.
Meanwhile the classic Mc2es tailcap for C series in the shoppe would work. You can also use a E2C adapter to put your KL3 on an aleph tailcap compatible body...

The DARPA ones are for DARPA only :mecry:

6010 said:

Does SF(or any other mfgr) I want to make my supply of 90 SF 123s I got for Christmas last longer than my gen 1 tl-2 led is . ALL opinions and suggestions appreciated !

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90?? How many do you use a week?? Maybe you need rechargeables.

a set lasts me quite awhile i still have *gone to look* 4 boxes of 12 ....so 48 total .i think i should get rechargeables tho but that is a whole other can of lumen worm . ....

They are those DARPA lights you mentioned. They should eventually come out commercially.

-David

could one put a KL4 on an L1 or L2 ?

maybe ill just get an L1 ... I hope it will be bright enough ....

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They are those DARPA lights you mentioned. They should eventually come out commercially.

-David

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They won't be available commercially ever as far as I know.

Anybody know what makes the DARPA lights so special? They look cool, but aside from the turbohead version and the version with extra led's around the bezel edge......................?

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Anybody know what makes the DARPA lights so special? They look cool, but aside from the turbohead version and the version with extra led's around the bezel edge......................?

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Well, yes...considering this they aren't that special... :thinking: :shrug:

They have red, white and IR integrated in one light.
Oh and they say "DARPA" on them

What does DARPA mean?

Jeff

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What does DARPA mean?

Jeff

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It means "Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency".

Ok, Ok, lol. I know they're special, just wondered what would make them unavailable to the civilian market. I think I have the basic idea though.

They are only made for a special contract with DARPA so they'll be the only ones getting these. I'm not even sure SF would have to right commercialize the product of a DARPA funded project...