Pila IBC Charger Compendium

[WildChild]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

WildChild - Just to be clear, you are talking about the Pila IBC?

Yes I am...

 

[Flashlight Aficionado]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Thanks, back to the editing room.

 

[SilverFox]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Hello Legendcpf,

I made up some of my own spacers using nuts and bolts.

Tom

 

[SilverFox]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Hello WildChild,

The proper procedure for inserting a cell into a holder (both for charging and for using) is to insert the cell, then turn it in place about 1/4 turn. This breaks up any oxidation at the contacts and minimizes resistance issues.

You still have to clean the battery contacts from time to time, but it goes a long way toward minimizing resistance problems.

Tom

 

[Flashlight Aficionado]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

I made up some of my own spacers using nuts and bolts.

Which battery sizes do you need to make spacers for?

If not a pain to look up, can you say which bolt or bolt for which sized battery? Again, if too hard don't bother.

 

[Flashlight Aficionado]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Silverfox - Any answer for number 12 on the list? Minimum voltage to initiate a charge?

Thanks.

 

[SilverFox]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Hello Flashlight Aficionado,

Here is the spacer I use for R-CR123 charging...

this is used in combination with the supplied spacer that comes with the charger.

The one for 10440 cells is the same style, but is a little shorter and is used without the supplied spacer.

Tom

 

[Flashlight Aficionado]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

It is done. :twothumbs Check out the first post.

 

[WildChild]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Hello WildChild,

The proper procedure for inserting a cell into a holder (both for charging and for using) is to insert the cell, then turn it in place about 1/4 turn. This breaks up any oxidation at the contacts and minimizes resistance issues.

You still have to clean the battery contacts from time to time, but it goes a long way toward minimizing resistance problems.

Tom

Thanks for the hint!

 

[Bones]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Hello Flashlight Aficionado,

Here is the spacer I use for R-CR123 charging...

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this is used in combination with the supplied spacer that comes with the charger.

The one for 10440 cells is the same style, but is a little shorter and is used without the supplied spacer.

Tom

Thanks for the image SilverFox.

Is it reasonable to presume that the bolts are cut to length, and the nuts tightened down to ensure a good connection?

Also, I was browsing for a similar set-up a while ago, and found what I needed in solid brass, solid stainless steel and chrome plating.

Any thoughts on which would provide the best connection with minimal pressure?

 

[SilverFox]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Hello Bones,

Yes, my nut fits tightly on the bolt. I used brass. I don't know if it is the best, but I like brass, and it was available.

Tom

 

[lengendcpf]

Re: PILA IBC Charger

Hello Legendcpf,

I made up some of my own spacers using nuts and bolts.

Tom

Tom, you have answered my second question, but you have not tell me, how long you put the 10440 in the charger for charging..

Thanks..

 

[cernobila]

Another option may be to use a AW CR123 dummy cell filed down a little for just the right overall length when combined with the RCR123 cell.

 

[LuxLuthor]

• Stage 4 – Standby mode, trickle charge (Stats say this, but it does not trickle charge)

Technically, what happens is charging terminates when 4.2V is reached. Thereafter, there is voltage sensing and if it drops to 4.17 - 4.18V, it starts charging up to 4.2V again. It should not be called "Trickle Charging" since this was first designed and used in NiMH charging, and implies continuous, low voltage charging.

On your point #3, you may wish to give a little more specific information because you mentioned "chemistries."

There are various types of Lithium Ion battery chemistries. It works on typical (Pila, AW) Lithium Cobalt Ion, and also the new safe chemistry Lithium Manganese Ion (Emoli, Konion) that are made in 18650 size.

It does not work on the Lithium Iron Phosphate (A123, Saphion, etc.) Ion which is also in 18650 size, but have the 3.0 to 3.3V range.

 

[SilverFox]

Hello Legendcpf,

I believe Flashlight Aficionado answered your question.

Basically, I charge until the green light indicates that the charge is complete. I also happen to set a back up timer to remind me that I have cell charging, but I don't use this as the primary charge termination. It is just a back up reminder.

I set that timer for (1.5 * capacity of the cell)/ charge rate.

Tom

 

[kurni]

Hi Tom,

Thank you very much for the info, I learned a lot.

I cannot determine from the pictures if it will charge AW's 14670 without nipple. It's not a dealbreaker, I just want to know if I should purchase a magnet.

Thanks again,
Kurni

 

[Edwood]

Nice consolidated thread. Perhaps this one can be a sticky?

I'd recommend adding info about making an adapter for charging AW "C" sized Li-Ion cells as well.

-Ed

 

[cernobila]

Hi Tom,

Thank you very much for the info, I learned a lot.

I cannot determine from the pictures if it will charge AW's 14670 without nipple. It's not a dealbreaker, I just want to know if I should purchase a magnet.

Thanks again,
Kurni

Should be ok, it has "raised" plus terminals, don't need magnets.

 

[lengendcpf]

Hello Legendcpf,

I believe Flashlight Aficionado answered your question.

Basically, I charge until the green light indicates that the charge is complete. I also happen to set a back up timer to remind me that I have cell charging, but I don't use this as the primary charge termination. It is just a back up reminder.

I set that timer for (1.5 * capacity of the cell)/ charge rate.

Tom

Thanks Tom..

 

[cernobila]

Nice consolidated thread. Perhaps this one can be a sticky?

I'd recommend adding info about making an adapter for charging AW "C" sized Li-Ion cells as well.

-Ed

You mean something like this?