Fenix L2D on turbo mode for prolong periods?

[Marduke]

Yes, actually. I can see exactly where the personal threat is in someone wondering whether or not you're using the internet to get away with things you wouldn't do in real life. Just to clarify, personal threats are "I'm going to kill you for calling me a liar".

Great job reading between the lines of what was said. Let me clarify, what his words intended to convey was along the lines of "If you said that to my face, I would 'teach you a lesson'"


BTW, a truly faulty capacitor would mean the light could not switch modes, if it was able to operate at all. The ability of the L2D to know what mode to use relies on active memory, which needs power. Once the capacitor runs out of juice (1.5 seconds), there is no power left to maintain the "memory". Such a capacitor cannot sustain the "memory" for hour or days. So unless someone on the factory floor picked up a random circuit board of completely different specs and installed it instead....

 

[Igor Porto]

What Igor Porto is saying does make sense.

The way the Fenix works is that it remembers its last setting for a very short period of time (under a second? in typical lights) so that it can jump to the next if it has its power cycled (the power is interrupted by a tap of the switch). (I am certain this has to do with discharge rates of a capacitor or something.) It certainly seems plausible to me that Igor could have had a defective model that did not detect power cycling at the correct intervals.

In any case, Igor Porto, you should not be so quick to judge Fenix based on a single piece. Every manufacturer has a lemon slip through the cracks once in awhile. You are getting a bargain in the light world ($50 for some large amount of lumens and excellent build quality) and even Surefire has occasional problems. There is a cost/benefit ratio and a couple missed pieces may take a lot more money to weed out, and that passes costs onto consumers who demand lower prices.

Exactly. This L2D was the most deffective unit I've ever seen. First it wasn't bright enough (the L2T is way brighter), second it had a terrible loud hissing.
And then, I didn't know at the time the "memory" effect was actually a defect, because the manual doesn't say it should turn on low every time, so I judged this was a feature.
If it must turn on low, then add this defect to the list.

 

[Igor Porto]

What you are spouting is not opinion or fact, it is misinformation, which either out of malice or stupidity, is not welcome on CPF.

What you claim is akin to walking into a McDonalds and whining the Whopper you bought there is cold, and you want your money back.

So, calling me stupid and/or liar is the way to go in CPF?

 

[Igor Porto]

And what if you're wrong? There's no reason a malfunctioning circuit shouldn't exhibit the behaviour he described, and calling someone and idiot because you didn't realise they might have a malfunctioning light is..... ironic?

And also, I wasn't aware personal attacks were welcome on CPF. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Yes, I didn't realise I had a malfunctioning circuit, because the manual doesn't say it should start on low every time. It would always turn on in the next level.

 

[Igor Porto]

How would a malfunctioning (ie out of spec) capacitor not appear to act as memory if it failed to discharge in a short period of time?

Exactly, again.

 

[Igor Porto]

Let me present a much more likely scenario:

He buys a light from his local shady shop in Brazil instead of from a respected dealer. The light he bought was not a factory L2D, but a hack job mod that someone was not pleased with and returned. The original owner had attempted to replace the circuit for whatever reason (maybe he had fried the original on 2x14500 or something), and put in one of the cheap 5 mode circuits from DX which DO have the craptastic memory that is described. The results were unsatisfactory, the guy sent it back, and the small time shop dealer didn't have a clue what to look for to know if the light was still functional.


I can see no other explanation for an L2D suddenly having a memory which it cannot possibly have, unless there was never a L2D to begin with and it was some other light that a noob was confused with, such as this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13177

Remember, he did say that some of his "Fenix" lights looked and felt completely different, which should not be the case of L2D vs L1T

OH really??? How imaginative you are! Your shrink must have a hard time on you.

Shady shop in Brazil? What is that? Prejudice? Have you ever been in Brazil?
For your information, Brazil does have an official Fenix distributor, and I bought from them, and they promptly changed the light for me. Shame on you Mr.-American-I-Know-Everything-I'm-On-Top-OF-The-World-And-All-Other-Countries-Suck.
The distributor is SO official that the serial numbers start with BR, for Brazil. Italians buy Fenix with IT numbers, French with FR, Chinese with CN and americans with US.

 

[Zatoichi]

If it must turn on low, then add this defect to the list.

You do have the option (assuming you have a fully functional L2D) of turning it on in either low mode or turbo mode, depending on whether the head is tightened or not. It sounds like the one you had was pretty messed up which is a shame, because it's a nice light when it works as it should.

 

[Igor Porto]

Personal threats also trump calling someone a liar.




Never hear this before? Big boy armchair bully who claims to carry a gun in real life telling someone to "I dare you to say that to my face! You disrespected me!"

Then he takes his proverbial ball and goes home out of shame.

I've been here long enough to see this same exact behavior from many people who all fit the same description.

I called him on his BS, he got his feelings hurt. Oh well, I'll sleep just fine.

Big boy armchair? Claims to carry a gun? What about the fact that I'm a LEO in Brazil and I MUST carry a gun? But that doesn't have to do with anything.

As a respecting member from this forum and other communities, I expected to be respected by you, but you failed on that. Badly.

The fact that you said it over a forum, is that people generally aren't so harsh face to face, either out of respect, or worse, fear. You just don't call and accuse anyone of being a liar if you don't know the person and have evidence.

And I'll sleep very well, everything that comes from below doesn't affect me.

 

[Jarl]

Great job reading between the lines of what was said. Let me clarify, what his words intended to convey was along the lines of "If you said that to my face, I would 'teach you a lesson'"

There's reading between the lines, and making stuff up. The last bit there was made up.

Go on, use the "liar or idiot" phrase again. I can tell you're itching to do so

 

[LEDconvert]

Ive thrown away the instructions that came with my L2D Q5, but as far as I remember the warning about running on Turbo for 10 minutes related to use in warm ambient conditions, and as a number of previous posters point out, heat can be dissipitated in a number of ways, so in most cases the heat probably won't build up to the extent that it will damage the unit (I would imagine...)

 

[Hitthespot]

Ive thrown away the instructions that came with my L2D Q5, but as far as I remember the warning about running on Turbo for 10 minutes related to use in warm ambient conditions, and as a number of previous posters point out, heat can be dissipitated in a number of ways, so in most cases the heat probably won't build up to the extent that it will damage the unit (I would imagine...)

You've gotta lot a nerve getting back on topic. This thread hasn't been on topic for more than 30 posts. :nana:

I just checked my user manual on my newer PD20 just to see exactly what it says.

Quote:

"Due to its high power consumption, an excessive amount of heat may build up. Under high ambient temperatures, please do not use the Turbo Mode for more than 10 minutes continuously, doing so may harm the battery and the flashlight."

This seems a reasonable statement to me, unfortunately they don't give a temperature or conditions to apply, which does leave the user somewhat bewildered. I guess this is why this question comes up often.

Bill

 

[Woods Walker]

Exactly. This L2D was the most deffective unit I've ever seen. First it wasn't bright enough (the L2T is way brighter), second it had a terrible loud hissing.
And then, I didn't know at the time the "memory" effect was actually a defect, because the manual doesn't say it should turn on low every time, so I judged this was a feature.
If it must turn on low, then add this defect to the list.

I think that was the problem. First the hiss was no fun. I did look at your beam shots and think the L2D Q5 was as bright or brighter than the L2T as the L2T seemed to have more throw as the L2D had more flood. Even the LED Mag could look brighter if throw is considered over any flood. I think you did the right thing in returning a light and keeping the L2T as it seemed to me you wanted more throw plus the hiss is kinda sucky even if people say it can happen with all these types of lights L2T included.

On the topic of this tread I used my L2D Q5 on mostly medium for around the house. Only use high when looking for trail markers etc. Once used the turbo for maybe 20 minutes however the wind chill was -10F so guessing there is no way anything would overheat.

 

[pipsqueakspace]

hehe Igor you are a funny guy. I have done my research and have never even heard anything that comes close to what you are saying. I have a fenix l2d q5 and it works fantastic. I agree with most people here that you can't make lemonade from coconuts. That memory mode that you are talking about just doesnt make any sense at all, and you must know how ridiculous you sound... How can a flashlight with no memory all of a sudden have memory? Im guessing that you got ripped off by someone in Brazil.....


And yes i have actually been to Brazil. Was on the beach in Rio de Janeiro one afternoon when out of nowhere a swarm of 20-25 guys from a slum comes running along the beach stealing everything in their sight (mostly from tourists). Cops could care less. Also had a watch stolen from my room in the hotel. Last time I ever go to Brazil..... If i ever go to south america again ill be going to Argentina instead, heard the ladies were quite better down there anyways...

If nobody agrees with what you are saying maybe you should think again about your position.....

 

[Robocop]

pipsqueakspace some have asked Igor to not base his opinion on one light just as you should not base your opinion of his homeland on one visit. I believe this thread has many at fault and this is not the time to jump in and stir up more drama.

Marduke as a member who has enough experience to know better it should be easy for you to simply overlook or ignore certain comments. If nothing else your initial response could have been worded differently.

Igor as a newer member we understand there may be a learning period to get adjusted however you also have started out with a very angry tone. Sure you have the right to your opinion however at times it may be best to express it a little differently. In the very least I am closing this thread as I believe it has ran its course.

I will say to both involved lighten up a little and remember we are here to first enjoy ourselves. The off topic comments and general rude replies will not be tolerated so again this thread is closed and all involved consider this a warning.....thanks

Edit:..... After further reviewing this thread I must say I am very dissapointed with you Marduke and honestly feel you need a little time to cool off and reflect on how an experienced member should react. Please use these few days to calm down and you will be welcomed back with hopefully a better attitude should you decide to return.

Igor I believe you attempted to steer away from trouble at first however sadly also resorted to rude behavior. I do not feel it fair to give some time away to Marduke and not also include you for the lesser participation you gave to all of this. I am also giving you a few days (not as many) to rethink this event and will also welcome you back should you decide to return.